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	<title>Comments on: Sam Vaknin : Wikipedia&#8217;s Six Cardinal Sins</title>
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		<title>By: Sam Vaknin&#8211;Videos &#171; Pronk Palisades</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Vaknin&#8211;Videos &#171; Pronk Palisades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: No Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valid criticism, with the exception of the bit on teenagers (as above).  I knew a guy (won't call him a friend, but I knew him), who was 2 years into Law School at age 19, having already graduated from a prestigious American university.  Are you trying to say that merely by virtue of his age, he was incapable of telling fact from fiction?  That a 26 year old high school dropout was better qualified to "do the referencing and research that are the prerequisite to serious scholarship" than my friend?

The problem with Wikipedia editors isn't that many of them are so young.  It's that they're so unqualified (educationally).  Many of the oldest contributors to Wikipedia are also the most idiotic; a certain type of retiree seems drawn to the place.  Really, the ideal Wikipedia editor is a graduate student in his/her twenties.  Maybe you want the contributors to be tenured professors, but most of them have far better things to do with their time. Young graduate students (say someone who's 24 years old and in a PhD program) have more than adequate academic qualifications and experience; they also have few avenues open for publication (and generally the desire to write fro the public), so they are truly the best sort of contributor to recruit.

I imagine your criticism is really more about high school students.  If it is, then say so.  Of course, in my experience, most of the high school kids running around either spend all their time reverting vandalism or writing about the latest internet meme, activities that are simply irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valid criticism, with the exception of the bit on teenagers (as above).  I knew a guy (won&#8217;t call him a friend, but I knew him), who was 2 years into Law School at age 19, having already graduated from a prestigious American university.  Are you trying to say that merely by virtue of his age, he was incapable of telling fact from fiction?  That a 26 year old high school dropout was better qualified to &#8220;do the referencing and research that are the prerequisite to serious scholarship&#8221; than my friend?</p>
<p>The problem with Wikipedia editors isn&#8217;t that many of them are so young.  It&#8217;s that they&#8217;re so unqualified (educationally).  Many of the oldest contributors to Wikipedia are also the most idiotic; a certain type of retiree seems drawn to the place.  Really, the ideal Wikipedia editor is a graduate student in his/her twenties.  Maybe you want the contributors to be tenured professors, but most of them have far better things to do with their time. Young graduate students (say someone who&#8217;s 24 years old and in a PhD program) have more than adequate academic qualifications and experience; they also have few avenues open for publication (and generally the desire to write fro the public), so they are truly the best sort of contributor to recruit.</p>
<p>I imagine your criticism is really more about high school students.  If it is, then say so.  Of course, in my experience, most of the high school kids running around either spend all their time reverting vandalism or writing about the latest internet meme, activities that are simply irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: John A</title>
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		<dc:creator>John A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous:
&lt;blockquote&gt;As a SIX year old I probably knew more about the life of Galileo than 99.99% of people know in their entire life. Was I some sort of savant? Hell no! I just read books and did RESEARCH out of pure curiosity and interest.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That's because you didn't have Wikipedia and Google to distract you from gaining real knowledge.

But the 99.99% of ignoramuses who think they know about Galileo's life are now controlling the article. And so knowledge is lost - Vaknin's "negative filter" in operation.</description>
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<blockquote><p>As a SIX year old I probably knew more about the life of Galileo than 99.99% of people know in their entire life. Was I some sort of savant? Hell no! I just read books and did RESEARCH out of pure curiosity and interest.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s because you didn&#8217;t have Wikipedia and Google to distract you from gaining real knowledge.</p>
<p>But the 99.99% of ignoramuses who think they know about Galileo&#8217;s life are now controlling the article. And so knowledge is lost - Vaknin&#8217;s &#8220;negative filter&#8221; in operation.</p>
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		<title>By: Kato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anonymous - well you clearly are unable to perform basic research - you misquoted and distorted Vaknin's original text twice in quick succession. Throwing in a couple of straw-men for good measure. 

Following that up with an irrelevant anecdotal tale about yourself as a six year old, and ending with a childish insult, you pro-Wikipedians consistently prove critics' points at every turn! You simply do not have the minimum whereabouts, integrity or decency to responsibly oversee the Sum of All Human Knowledge. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anonymous - well you clearly are unable to perform basic research - you misquoted and distorted Vaknin&#8217;s original text twice in quick succession. Throwing in a couple of straw-men for good measure. </p>
<p>Following that up with an irrelevant anecdotal tale about yourself as a six year old, and ending with a childish insult, you pro-Wikipedians consistently prove critics&#8217; points at every turn! You simply do not have the minimum whereabouts, integrity or decency to responsibly oversee the Sum of All Human Knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The truth is that teenagers cannot do the referencing and research that are the prerequisite to serious scholarship... Moreover, teenagers can’t tell hype from fact and fad from fixture."

What a ridiculous assertion. "All teenagers are incapable of sorting fact from fiction"? "All teenagers are incapable of performing in-depth research"? Do you hear yourself?

As a SIX year old I probably knew more about the life of Galileo than 99.99% of people know in their entire life. Was I some sort of savant? Hell no! I just read books and did RESEARCH out of pure curiosity and interest.

If a six year old can do it, why the hell not a sixteen year old?

Moron.</description>
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<p>What a ridiculous assertion. &#8220;All teenagers are incapable of sorting fact from fiction&#8221;? &#8220;All teenagers are incapable of performing in-depth research&#8221;? Do you hear yourself?</p>
<p>As a SIX year old I probably knew more about the life of Galileo than 99.99% of people know in their entire life. Was I some sort of savant? Hell no! I just read books and did RESEARCH out of pure curiosity and interest.</p>
<p>If a six year old can do it, why the hell not a sixteen year old?</p>
<p>Moron.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Awbrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Awbrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Random832</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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