Baegis tried to close the
WP:AN thread and archive it. But MastCell unarchived it and rebuked him for his temerity and hubris.
QUOTE(WP:AN Time to archive @ insists Baegis)
I'd like to ask for a bit more time. (yes, I know this has dragged on...) Kim and I talked on the phone yesterday about this matter, and I think he might have something brewing that might have bearing. ++Lar: t/c 14:02, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry Lar, but I don't really see any grounds for more time. Moulton continues to ignore the calls to make a statement that he will try to edit within policy while also posting all of his talk page messages for comment on WR. I fail to see why, after 8 days of discussion, this should continue any further. Moulton has exhausted his chances. I do apologize to all of the great editors who stuck their neck out to try to help him. You all showed a large outpouring of good faith for willing to undertake this matter. Baegisthesock (talk) 14:33, 23 May 2008 (UTC)Sorry for being a bit obscure here about why... let me try to clarify. Sometimes, as much as we might want our "adversary" to say "uncle", they won't say it exactly as we would want it said. But if they're communicating basically what we think is important, it may sometimes not matter if they use the exact words we want. That's what Kim and I were talking about when we talked... If you read for meaning, and strip away the rest, Moulton IS saying he's going to abide, at least under some interpretations. Just not in the explicit form some of us (including myself) would prefer. So I think it is prudent to keep this open a bit longer. ALSO, we still haven't had nearly the level of commentary here that we did on say, the Betacommand thread that was concurrent. Far fewer voices commented here than on his RFC even. ++Lar: t/c 16:18, 23 May 2008 (UTC)No, I'm sorry, but with comments that clearly show he is not asking to be unblocked, this conversation is over. How can you rectify this with your belief that you are close to any sort of amicable solution to this? I do not care for the fact that there are editors making phone calls and trying to figure how to use any means to get Moulton back here. Show some respect for the other editors and just end this charade. He needs to try to abide by community standards or he remains blocked. There is no go around. He doesn't get a free pass. If you want to continue this elsewhere, thats fine. If you find a solution, fine as long as the community is made aware of the coniditions and is not troubled by them. But this thread on this board has reached the point of being useful. Baegisthesock (talk) 17:16, 23 May 2008 (UTC)I've unarchived the thread. Please don't do this. We're not racing the clock here, and as long as Lar is pursuing something he believes may be fruitful, let's leave this open. We can trust Lar to be reasonable and circumspect here. You're not even making Moulton work very hard to push your buttons. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) Take a cue from Wikipedia Review and just ignore him if you think he's got nothing to offer. De-watchlist his talkpage. If/when Lar and Kim have a proposed solution, I'm confident they'll submit it for comment by the community. MastCell Talk 19:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Why would Baegis want to archive the thread just when he realizes the thread had finally reached the point of being useful?