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Thank you Moulton! I was worried when there was no comment from you about this yesterday, but it seems like you really did your homework on this one. Not much more that I can add, but like I said in those AN/I threads, those ID punks rushing to AN/I was quite suspicious.

Alison and Lar, you guys really should forward this information to ArbCom. If what Moulton says is true, I have no reason to believe otherwise, then Filll has been up to no good. Not only has he potentially engaged in abusive sockpuppetry, he has misrepresented himself as an agent of the Foundation (yes, I know some on here think that all editors should be treated as such, but that isn't the point here).

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QUOTE(prospero @ Tue 17th June 2008, 7:36pm) *
Thank you Moulton! I was worried when there was no comment from you about this yesterday, but it seems like you really did your homework on this one. Not much more that I can add, but like I said in those AN/I threads, those ID punks rushing to AN/I was quite suspicious.

Alison and Lar, you guys really should forward this information to ArbCom. If what Moulton says is true, I have no reason to believe otherwise, then Filll has been up to no good. Not only has he been potentially engaging in abusive sockpuppetry, he has been misrepresenting himself as an agent of the Foundation (yes, I know some on here think that all editors should be treated as such, but that isn't the point here).

I'm not convinced there is any sock-puppetry involved.

It's quite possible all three accounts are different people with the same name.

The so-called imposter/impersonator gave a Zip+4 code that uniquely identified a real person named Robert Stevens living in Woodbridge VA, who (among other things) edited the article on Woodbridge VA during his brief sojourn on the English Wikipedia. I suppose someone could call him up at the listed phone number and interview him to find out his story.

I have no idea who User:Robert Stevens is, but that may be yet a third person with that name. I suppose it would take a CheckUser to resolve the issue. Meantime, this version of his user page is amusing.

Finally, I don't actually know that "Bob Stevens" is Filll's real name. It's the name he uses on his Yahoo E-Mail. But most people don't use their real name on Yahoo E-Mail, so it's possible he is using that name as a pseudonym, too. Nor do I know of any way to find out, one way or the other.

All I know for a fact is that Filll sent those E-Mails to me and to Alexandra Kahn, and used a Yahoo E-Mail account in the name of "Bob Stevens". What I can also tell you is that Bob/Filll originated his August 2007 Yahoo E-Mails to me from IP Address 69.140.98.149
[c-69-140-98-149.hsd1.md.comcast.net], which puts him in Maryland, just as his Skype ID, bob.in.md suggests.
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Tue 17th June 2008, 8:10pm) *

QUOTE(prospero @ Tue 17th June 2008, 7:36pm) *
Thank you Moulton! I was worried when there was no comment from you about this yesterday, but it seems like you really did your homework on this one. Not much more that I can add, but like I said in those AN/I threads, those ID punks rushing to AN/I was quite suspicious.

Alison and Lar, you guys really should forward this information to ArbCom. If what Moulton says is true, I have no reason to believe otherwise, then Filll has been up to no good. Not only has he been potentially engaging in abusive sockpuppetry, he has been misrepresenting himself as an agent of the Foundation (yes, I know some on here think that all editors should be treated as such, but that isn't the point here).

I'm not convinced there is any sock-puppetry involved.

It's quite possible all three accounts are different people with the same name.

The so-called imposter/impersonator gave a Zip+4 code that uniquely identified a real person named Robert Stevens living in Woodbridge VA, who (among other things) edited the article on Woodbridge VA during his brief sojourn on the English Wikipedia. I suppose someone could call him up at the listed phone number and interview him to find out his story.

I have no idea who User:Robert Stevens is, but that may be yet a third person with that name. I suppose it would take a CheckUser to resolve the issue. Meantime, this version of his user page is amusing.

Finally, I don't actually know that "Bob Stevens" is Filll's real name. It's the name he uses on his Yahoo E-Mail. But most people don't use their real name on Yahoo E-Mail, so it's possible he is using that name as a pseudonym, too. Nor do I know of any way to find out, one way or the other.

All I know for a fact is that Filll sent those E-Mails to me and to Alexandra Kahn, and used a Yahoo E-Mail account in the name of "Bob Stevens". What I can also tell you is that Bob/Filll originated his August 2007 Yahoo E-Mails to me from IP Address 69.140.98.149
[c-69-140-98-149.hsd1.md.comcast.net], which puts him in Maryland, just as his Skype ID, bob.in.md suggests.


Hmm... Perhaps you are correct. Even if I'm not a fan of [[WP:BLP]], I still think that Filll "negotiating" with Dr. Picard "on behalf of the foundation" sounds coercive to me. He really ought to be ashamed of himself, especially considering how gracious and polite Dr. Picard was in her responses.

I have my own suspicions that he might be jealous of her working at a prestigious institution like MIT when perhaps he is not in a similar situation. The bitterness that I often see him display is what leads me to this conclusion. It wouldn't be the first time that I've seen a bitter, mediocre academic attempt to destroy a flourishing, successful one.

Interesting, I did not know we had that template. I think I'll go slap it on Crum375's userpage right now.

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QUOTE(prospero @ Tue 17th June 2008, 8:38pm) *
Hmm... Perhaps you are correct. Even if I'm not a fan of [[WP:BLP]], I still think that Filll "negotiating" with Dr. Picard "on behalf of the foundation" sounds coercive to me. He really ought to be ashamed of himself, especially considering how gracious and polite Dr. Picard was in her responses.

I have my own suspicions that he might be jealous of her working at a prestigious institution like MIT when perhaps he is not in a similar situation. The bitterness that I often see him display is what leads me to this conclusion. It wouldn't be the first time that I've seen a bitter, mediocre academic attempt to destroy a flourishing, successful one.

Interesting, I did not know we had that template. I think I'll go slap it on Crum375's userpage right now.

Filll was actually negotiating with Alexandra Kahn, the MIT Media Lab Press Liaison (whom I finally met for the first time just last April).

I was there for Sponsor Week, which is a hectic time. Somebody I had never seen before came around looking for Picard, but she wasn't in her office. I introduced myself, and the person said, "Yes, I know who you are. I'm Alexandra Kahn." It took me half a minute to recollect the name and associate it with the person whom Filll had contacted six months earlier.

Somewhere (I think on Skype), Filll asserted that he had gone to MIT or otherwise had an MIT association. I recall noting that I had never met anyone at MIT named 'Bob Stevens', but then it's a big institution.
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