Slim's accusations against the Review, full of sound and fury Options

[gomi]

Here are a few accusations about Wikipedia Review that SlimVirgin makes in her essay on the Poetlister affair:

• The four of them ... proceeded to trash me with any allegation they could think of, including that I was a neo-Nazi pretending to be a Jew
• They were going to report me to an Israeli Embassy in Australia (where Blissy lived)
• They held a poll to decide whether the Mossad would kill me or jail me
• They posted that I had faked my own death, and that I was a teenage girl who had murdered her mother. Selina kept posting photographs of obese women, claiming they were me
• They discussed whether I feared being raped, what underwear I wore, whether I wanted to have sex with teenagers, and whether I had to sleep with men to get jobs.
• I was openly referred to as a whore and a cunt.
• An Iraq war veteran in Canada ... warned that I had better find a place to hide, because he was coming to look for me, and was looking forward to punching me in the face.

Slim doesn't provide any links. Here is my question: are any of these accusations even remotely true? I've been on WR for well over 2 years, and I can't recall a single one of these things happening (except maybe for some people addressing Slim with derogatory and sexist epithets). For those who've been on the site longer, does any of this ring true?

What this appears to be is Slim attempting yet again to tar WR with outrageous but unprovable accusations, most sourced in ancient history and unrelated to the WR of today.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

Slim doesn't provide any links. Here is my question: are any of these accusations even remotely true? I've been on WR for well over 2 years, and I can't recall a single one of these things happening (except maybe for some people addressing Slim with derogatory and sexist epithets). For those who've been on the site longer, does any of this ring true?

She also says that I sent her a Christmas message worded "ho, ho, ho." Now, I actually think that it's relatively witty, compared to the more general vituperation, but I don't think I can claim credit for it.

[Proabivouac]

Slim doesn't provide any links. Here is my question: are any of these accusations even remotely true? I've been on WR for well over 2 years, and I can't recall a single one of these things happening (except maybe for some people addressing Slim with derogatory and sexist epithets). For those who've been on the site longer, does any of this ring true?

She also says that I sent her a Christmas message worded "ho, ho, ho." Now, I actually think that it's relatively witty, compared to the more general vituperation, but I don't think I can claim credit for it.

It seems probable that Slim's allegation that "Herschelkrustofsky wished me Merry Christmas one year with a "ho, ho, ho.""…
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=236905028
refers to these posts of Christmas 2006:

Damn, you fooled me again. I saw the thread title, and thought you were going to be talking about SlimVirgin.
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...indpost&p=19465

Damn, you fooled me again. I saw the thread title, and thought you were going to be talking about SlimVirgin.

(IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) And two meat puppets.
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...indpost&p=19477

SlimVirgin has, to my eye, accurately captured the spirit of these remarks.

[dogbiscuit]

Slim doesn't provide any links. Here is my question: are any of these accusations even remotely true? I've been on WR for well over 2 years, and I can't recall a single one of these things happening (except maybe for some people addressing Slim with derogatory and sexist epithets). For those who've been on the site longer, does any of this ring true?

She also says that I sent her a Christmas message worded "ho, ho, ho." Now, I actually think that it's relatively witty, compared to the more general vituperation, but I don't think I can claim credit for it.

It seems probable that Slim's allegation that "Herschelkrustofsky wished me Merry Christmas one year with a "ho, ho, ho.""…
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=236905028
refers to these posts of Christmas 2006:

Damn, you fooled me again. I saw the thread title, and thought you were going to be talking about SlimVirgin.
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...indpost&p=19465

Damn, you fooled me again. I saw the thread title, and thought you were going to be talking about SlimVirgin.

(IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) And two meat puppets.
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...indpost&p=19477

SlimVirgin has, to my eye, accurately captured the spirit of these remarks.

Well, yes and no. They were pretty insulting but as ever, she twists it to make it seem a personal interaction rather than an offhand throwaway joke - as a Brit, it took me several reads to work out the sockpuppet remark.

More interesting though is that nearly two years on, Slim has bookmarked, festered on, and rewritten and regurgitated a remark that was a throwaway comment. Wikipedians ability to bear a grudge over immense periods of time knows no bounds. To be frank, I'd be embarrassed to bring something like that up after this length of time.

I propose that at next year's awards, we introduce the Grudge Bearing Award for the Wikipedian maintaining the longest grudge over the most trivial matter, extra points awarded for those who manage to get blocks and bans achieved on the basis of bringing these stale matters up. We could get several Eastern European states to sponsor it.

[Proabivouac]

Well, yes and no. They were pretty insulting but as ever, she twists it to make it seem a personal interaction rather than an offhand throwaway joke - as a Brit, it took me several reads to work out the sockpuppet remark.

More interesting though is that nearly two years on, Slim has bookmarked, festered on, and rewritten and regurgitated a remark that was a throwaway comment. Wikipedians ability to bear a grudge over immense periods of time knows no bounds. To be frank, I'd be embarrassed to bring something like that up after this length of time.

I am not clear that she has bookmarked these links, which I found in the course of my own research. Perhaps her hazy representation of the context in which these remarks were posted reflects her failure to adequately archive this material.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

More interesting though is that nearly two years on, Slim has bookmarked, festered on, and rewritten and regurgitated a remark that was a throwaway comment. Wikipedians ability to bear a grudge over immense periods of time knows no bounds. To be frank, I'd be embarrassed to bring something like that up after this length of time.

I am not clear that she has bookmarked these links, which I found in the course of my own research. Perhaps her hazy representation of the context in which these remarks were posted reflects her failure to adequately archive this material.

I doubt it. She's very methodical. She also routinely misrepresents her archived material, assuming that she can get away with it due to the sheer volume of accusations that she presents. In this case, it is likely that you managed to find the actual basis for her accusation, which most people would not trouble themselves to do. And it is also clear that there was no personal "Christmas message" to her from either Gomi or myself.

As others have commented, she can produce the links when she wants to, so always be suspicious if she chooses not to.

Bingo.

[Proabivouac]

And it is also clear that there was no personal "Christmas message" to her from either Gomi or myself.

I agree that Slim's wording, "Herschelkrustofsky wished me Merry Christmas one year with a "ho, ho, ho."", is misleading on two counts. The first is that you were not the initiator of this "witticism", but only responded to Gomi. The second is, as you say, no personal message was sent to her; while Slim's language doesn't require this, it's the most natural reading.

[gomi]

And it is also clear that there was no personal "Christmas message" to her from either Gomi or myself.

I agree that Slim's wording, "Herschelkrustofsky wished me Merry Christmas one year with a "ho, ho, ho."", is misleading on two counts. The first is that you were not the initiator of this "witticism", but only responded to Gomi. The second is, as you say, no personal message was sent to her; while Slim's language doesn't require this, it's the most natural reading.

In the cool light of day, I will admit that my own language vis-a-vis SlimVirgin is not above reproach (far from it). I am as likely as others to mix up the various uses of this forum: 1) as a serious critical review of WP and its adminsitrators; 2) as a compendium and record of administrative mis-behaviour and hypocrisy; and 3) as a place for those wronged by WP admins to commiserate and blow off steam. Slim and Jayjg are responsible for not only my banning under false pretenses, but that of my then-employer and several colleagues, so it is no secret that I hold some ill-will. Some of the banned have subsequently made some kind peace with Slim and have urged me to do the same, but like The Adversary, I find her so pernicious and annoying that I'm not able to do that. So this is my mea culpa for using sexist epithets that I should not have, but not for making strong criticisms in strong terms.

[Proabivouac]

Slim and Jayjg are responsible for not only my banning under false pretenses, but that of my then-employer and several colleagues, so it is no secret that I hold some ill-will. Some of the banned have subsequently made some kind peace with Slim and have urged me to do the same, but like The Adversary, I find her so pernicious and annoying that I'm not able to do that.

I'm interested in hearing more about this. If Slim and Jayjg, along with your employer and colleagues, banned you under false pretenses, you ill will would be perfectly justified. What happened?

This post has been edited by Proabivouac:

[Herschelkrustofsky]

I'm interested in hearing more about this. If Slim and Jayjg, along with your employer and colleagues, banned you under false pretenses, you ill will would be perfectly justified. What happened?

It might be interesting to conduct a poll to see what percentage of members of the Review were banned under corrupt circumstances by Slim and her posse. I suspect the numbers would startle you.