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I have as much free time as a Wikipedia admin! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 4,400 Joined: Member No.: 4,212 ![]() |
See Jimbo's talk page, and the [[Ayn Rand]] article which I have rewritten. The bet is how long it will stay in its rewritten state. I love the remark that 'Aristotle was sorely over-rated'.
QUOTE 'Aristotle was sorely overrated'. Ha! Wikipediot. Obscure greek Homer 42k, famous american Homer 65k. I would have bought this argument when Wikipedia first began. But as I pointed out above, the project is now mature, and we still find it difficult to attract editors who can write accessible material on more encylopedic subjects. The reason is abundantly clear: the place is infested with cranks, advocates of strange fringe theories, mystics, lunatics of all kinds. No sane intelligent person would go near the place with a bargepole. In any case, I have now re-written the introduction to Ayn Rand that makes it less obviously written by Rand fanatics. Let's see what happens from there on. If the introduction stands relatively unchanged, I lose my bet. If it is torn to shreds and returned to the unreadable ungrammatical state as before, I win, bigtime. Peter Damian (talk) 13:08, 10 January 2009 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...es_in_Wikipedia This post has been edited by Peter Damian: |
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The article is dreadful.
In the lead, it asserts: QUOTE(Ayn Rand article) She was a fierce opponent of all forms of collectivism and statism,[2][3] including fascism, communism, and the welfare state. Ayn Rand opposes that trinity of evils... The Nazis!!! (IMG:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Adolf_Hitler.png) and The Communists!!!! (IMG:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b3/Mielke_generaele.jpg) and The Welfare State!!!!! (IMG:http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb311/Kato90125/welfare.jpg) Slim's version is far more satisfactory, I don't know if she wrote it, but it should be restored anyway: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SlimVirgin/Ayn_Rand QUOTE(Slim's version of the Ayn Rand leading paragraph) Ayn Rand (IPA: /ˈaɪn ˈrænd/, February 2 [O.S. January 20] 1905 – March 6, 1982), was a Russian-American novelist, playwright, and screenwriter. She wrote the best-selling novels The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged and developed the philosophical system known as objectivism. Born and educated in Russia, Rand emigrated to the United States in 1925. She based some of her writings on her personal experiences and was a fierce opponent of communism. She worked as a screen-writer until 1932, when her first play was produced in Hollywood and Broadway. Her first successful novel was The Fountainhead, published in 1943, and her best-known work was the philosophical novel Atlas Shrugged, published in 1957. Her political philosophy, reflected in both her fiction and her theoretical work, emphasizes individualism, limited government, and the constitutional protection of the right to life, liberty, and property. She promoted the concept of the hero standing against the mob, amid derisive depictions of trade unions, socialism, and egalitarianism, arguing that rational self-interest, properly understood, is the true standard of morality and that altruism is profoundly immoral.[1] She has attracted a following, mainly in America, where her views have influenced a number of public figures.[2] Within academia, her philosophical work has earned either no attention or has been criticized for its allegedly derivative nature,[3] a lack of rigor, and a limited understanding of the issues she wrote about,[4] though an increasing interest in her writing saw the philosophy department of the University of Texas at Austin establish a fellowship in her name in 2001.[5] |
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The article is dreadful. In the lead, it asserts: QUOTE(Ayn Rand article) She was a fierce opponent of all forms of collectivism and statism,[2][3] including fascism, communism, and the welfare state. [...] Slim's version is far more satisfactory, I don't know if she wrote it, but it should be restored anyway: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SlimVirgin/Ayn_Rand QUOTE(Slim's version of the Ayn Rand leading paragraph) Ayn Rand (IPA: /ˈaɪn ˈrænd/, February 2 [O.S. January 20] 1905 – March 6, 1982), was a Russian-American novelist, playwright, and screenwriter. She wrote the best-selling novels The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged and developed the philosophical system known as objectivism. Born and educated in Russia, Rand emigrated to the United States in 1925. She based some of her writings on her personal experiences and was a fierce opponent of communism. She worked as a screen-writer until 1932, when her first play was produced in Hollywood and Broadway. Her first successful novel was The Fountainhead, published in 1943, and her best-known work was the philosophical novel Atlas Shrugged, published in 1957. Her political philosophy, reflected in both her fiction and her theoretical work, emphasizes individualism, limited government, and the constitutional protection of the right to life, liberty, and property. She promoted the concept of the hero standing against the mob, amid derisive depictions of trade unions, socialism, and egalitarianism, arguing that rational self-interest, properly understood, is the true standard of morality and that altruism is profoundly immoral.[1] She has attracted a following, mainly in America, where her views have influenced a number of public figures.[2] Within academia, her philosophical work has earned either no attention or has been criticized for its allegedly derivative nature,[3] a lack of rigor, and a limited understanding of the issues she wrote about,[4] though an increasing interest in her writing saw the philosophy department of the University of Texas at Austin establish a fellowship in her name in 2001.[5] Ahem this is my version. Slim put that version on her page to keep it safe during the edit war. She put in the bit about the U of Texas grant. [edit] And the dreadfully written "She promoted the concept of the hero standing against the mob, amid derisive depictions of trade unions, socialism, and egalitarianism" would not have been mine either. The hero is standing in the middle of derisive depictions? Category mistake. Rather like saying the hero is standing in the middle of two sentences. This post has been edited by Peter Damian: |
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[edit] And the dreadfully written "She promoted the concept of the hero standing against the mob, amid derisive depictions of trade unions, socialism, and egalitarianism" would not have been mine either. The hero is standing in the middle of derisive depictions? Category mistake. Rather like saying the hero is standing in the middle of two sentences. |
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