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QUOTE(Moulton @ Sat 7th March 2009, 4:48pm) There are lots of ways to (intentionally or inadvertently) confirm an otherwise unproven assertion without passing the information directly.
Back in the 90s, I was completely in the dark about the role someone (whom I never spoke with in private) had played. So I boldly posted an assertion about her for which I had not a shred of evidence.
She immediately became incensed and demanded to know who had told me that, strongly hinting that it must have been leaked by the single person whom everyone knew was friends with both of us.
I responded that the person who told me was none other than the subject herself, who had confirmed my otherwise ungrounded theory by falsely claiming our mutual friend must have leaked it.
Oddly enough, she never let go of that erroneous indictment, notwithstanding the truth of the matter, that I had just made a good guess and published it as if I knew it for a fact.
There is, however, a difference between this and if you had instead published actual words written by her and not intended for your eyes - while what you did only weakly implied a leak, that would confirm it for certain (and only be possible if there had actually been one). It is not in dispute here* that _someone_ leaked / is leaking messages from wikichix-l to Proabivouac (either that, or he somehow gained direct access himself). The only question is who. And the only plausible suspect I can think of is wikiwhistle. *The possibility remains, I suppose, that the message he posted was a fabrication, but it seems likely someone would have called him on it were that the case This post has been edited by Random832:
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QUOTE(Random832 @ Sat 7th March 2009, 11:51am) It is not in dispute here* that _someone_ leaked / is leaking messages from wikichix-l to Proabivouac (either that, or he somehow gained direct access himself). The only question is who. And the only plausible suspect I can think of is wikiwhistle.
*The possibility remains, I suppose, that the message he posted was a fabrication, but it seems likely someone would have called him on it were that the case
To be fair, you don't know the member list of Wikichix, so to say "the only plausible suspect I can think of is wikiwhistle" is sort of silly. Only suspect out of whom? Not all chicks on WP are members of this group, and not all members of this group are chicks. It could be any number of people. WW said she didn't do it, Proab says he doesn't have access. That doesn't mean that one of Proab's cronies doesn't have access, pretending to be a female... or that he doesn't have a female crony on the list willing to spill the secrets. Befriending someone like Proab is, in my opinion, ipso facto support of his actions. So for the sake of his cronies, I hope they've got a sturdy lock on the closet that holds their own skeletons, and no one who knows their secrets willing to spill them.
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QUOTE(LaraLove @ Sat 7th March 2009, 9:18am) QUOTE(Random832 @ Sat 7th March 2009, 11:51am) It is not in dispute here* that _someone_ leaked / is leaking messages from wikichix-l to Proabivouac (either that, or he somehow gained direct access himself). The only question is who. And the only plausible suspect I can think of is wikiwhistle.
*The possibility remains, I suppose, that the message he posted was a fabrication, but it seems likely someone would have called him on it were that the case
To be fair, you don't know the member list of Wikichix, so to say "the only plausible suspect I can think of is wikiwhistle" is sort of silly. Only suspect out of whom? Not all chicks on WP are members of this group, and not all members of this group are chicks. It could be any number of people. WW said she didn't do it, Proab says he doesn't have access. That doesn't mean that one of Proab's cronies doesn't have access, pretending to be a female... or that he doesn't have a female crony on the list willing to spill the secrets. Indeed. It could be any of a number of other people that immediately come to mind, actually. I count four of five Chix members on WR right now, with little effort I'd also really like to know who it was who did leak that info, but he ain't tellin' (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif) QUOTE(LaraLove @ Sat 7th March 2009, 9:18am) Befriending someone like Proab is, in my opinion, ipso facto support of his actions. So for the sake of his cronies, I hope they've got a sturdy lock on the closet that holds their own skeletons, and no one who knows their secrets willing to spill them.
It's not ipso facto anything, any more than posting here is ipso facto support of WordBomb (remember those days?) I don't buy guilt by association at all, sorry.
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QUOTE(Alison @ Sat 7th March 2009, 5:41pm) QUOTE(Random832 @ Sat 7th March 2009, 9:38am) QUOTE(Alison @ Sat 7th March 2009, 5:34pm) Indeed. It could be any of a number of other people that immediately come to mind, actually. I count four of five Chix members on WR right now, with little effort I'd also really like to know who it was who did leak that info, but he ain't tellin' (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif) Of those, which others took up the strange position that it is more acceptable for Proabivouac to have access to that material than it is for Kylu? Listen to what Lara is saying. It could be any of a number of others - not even WR folks - that were silent on the matter. It's that simple. You're judging based on the one or two you see on here. Are you saying I said that, Random, because I don't think that I would say that exactly, and I'm not sure what context that was in. What I can say is that I've never leaked anything off wikichix, and I've sworn to them that I haven't, however I've heard that several people are leaking info from there. I don't know who those people are, and that action is not condoned by me. This post has been edited by wikiwhistle:
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QUOTE(wikiwhistle @ Sun 8th March 2009, 12:01am) Are you saying I said that, Random, because I don't think that I would say that exactly, and I'm not sure what context that was in. What I can say is that I've never leaked anything off wikichix, and I've sworn to them that I haven't, however I've heard that several people are leaking info from there. I don't know who those people are, and that action is not condoned by me.
All I'm saying is you didn't seem particularly concerned about it at the time, contrasted with the kind of crap you were saying about Kylu being on the list. You even made jokes about it (at Kylu's expense, no less).
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