QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 10th March 2009, 1:43pm)
I think their increasingly ridiculous farewells to adminship cruelly displays how they have completely lost track of reality in regard to where a volunteer hobby site like Wikipedia should fit into their lives. My message to SirFozzie, Barneca, Kevin and Ddstretch: come on, you slobs, grow up and get a life.
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QUOTE(LaraLove @ Tue 10th March 2009, 3:27pm)
People are dropping out now in disgust and frustration. Some of them after feeling overwhelmed. It doesn't get better from there without change. It only gets worse. With fewer principled people fighting the good fight, the dipshits win. The frustration grows, and with more shit to deal with, it's more overwhelming.
This is all completely obvious.
That's what happens. The obsessives and the evil care more and have more staying power than the rest in some spheres of this world. So just leave them to their games.
Other, more meaningful things are slowly improving anyway, such as BLP, regardless of who is leaving, as the bottom line is Jimbo runs the place and it's part of how he makes his livelihood, and others of the WMF are salaried and would take the flack or loose monies if they upset enough influential/rich people or people sued.
QUOTE(One @ Tue 10th March 2009, 5:47pm)
Jimbo himself can't bring about change. Policy creation is basically broken, and I'm even more convinced that the only way to get anything is to go do it. That's what I'm proposing.
Jimbo can do what he wants for en.wiki if he really wants to do it. As for 'just do it'; yes, that might work when you're an arb and if you can argue rationally for what you do.
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 10th March 2009, 9:41pm)
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Remember that this is just a hobby.
A hobby in which the resulting product is essentially intangible
and does not belong to the hobbyist....even people who self-publish
their bad poetry end up with something that can be copyrighted.
Exactly, it's worse than ephemeral. Publishing, even on lulu.com has more meaning and relevance to the writer. Even my hopeless attempts at dressmaking are more constructive.
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