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The more I think about things on Wikipedia, the more I'm inclined to use the old Branch Rickey line when after a poor year for his team, one of his top players demanded a raise....
"We finished last with you.. we can finish last without you just as well".
Why?
Because quite frankly, I'm tired of pushing against the status quo in so many things.
Ireland related editwars? Yeah. THAT'S gonna go away real soon.
"Fringe Science"? Dear god, I hope people won't be surprised that my first, second, and third thoughts when reading all the AE/AN/ANI reports since the ArbCom case closed ten days ago was "God, I wish I could ban them all". Not Argumentum Ad Nauseum, more like Argumentum Ad Insanium. (I know, bad Latin, I don't care)
Flagged Revisions? Again, the status quo will never change. there's too much inertia to ever get it into motion without something extra-ordinary (IE, Jimbo decides to take the PR hit and God-Kings something through)
Followers of (insert political party here) thinks Wikipedia is far too biased in favor of (insert political party here). (and usually, the people on that side think it's just as biased the other way).
Even when ArbCom does things right, they screw things up. ScienceApologist's topic ban is being flouted blatantly, and instead of letting a clear boundary be set, they demand it be done as an "ArbCom clarification", which means at least some folks on ArbCom sit and discuss things endlessly..) This thing closed ten days ago. A "clarification" on the wording shouldn't take another 4+ days.. they have everything at hand! But instead, the fire rages out of control. Same as it ever was.
I was talking with a person recently whose name gets bandied around here quite frequently (although not as frequently as it used to). We got to talking about ArbCom Enforcement and the situation on Wikipedia. And they said as a conservative estimate, there would need to be at least THREE times as many administrators to keep things under control. Not three times as many admins at AE (although that would help), three times as many administrators, period! Not to mention 80% of the admin class aren't doing much of anything to manage conflicts on Wikipedia
Anyway, I'm wondering if it's time to let someone else have fun with the mop, and drift away. Let all the articles on my watchlist go, and let the vandals at em.
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QUOTE(Kato @ Tue 10th March 2009, 12:27pm) Change of plan, guys!
Rather than quit, make a statement....
I think any statement an individual could make is destined to be lost in the noise. Even a spectacular burnout is soon forgotten. Kevin
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QUOTE(LaraLove @ Tue 10th March 2009, 1:18pm) QUOTE(Kevin @ Tue 10th March 2009, 12:14am) I think any statement an individual could make is destined to be lost in the noise.
I think a good statement to serve as a record as to why you resigned and/or retired is a positive. The more admins that drop for the same reasons, the more likely some change will eventually be pushed through. Sending a message is important, in my opinion. I have made a statement of sorts, so that others will know my reasons. I can't see it having any impact whatsoever though, unless the resignations ramp up significantly. Kevin
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QUOTE(Kevin @ Tue 10th March 2009, 12:33am) QUOTE(LaraLove @ Tue 10th March 2009, 1:18pm) QUOTE(Kevin @ Tue 10th March 2009, 12:14am) I think any statement an individual could make is destined to be lost in the noise.
I think a good statement to serve as a record as to why you resigned and/or retired is a positive. The more admins that drop for the same reasons, the more likely some change will eventually be pushed through. Sending a message is important, in my opinion. I have made a statement of sorts, so that others will know my reasons. I can't see it having any impact whatsoever though, unless the resignations ramp up significantly. Kevin Although there has always been a high degree of turnover among all levels of Wikipedia participants, including the various types of functionaries, I can assure you that the recent raft of resignations, retirements, or semi-inactivities has been noted and is the subject of concern. Real life issues come first, of course, and so does the principle that one only gives volunteer time where one is having some fun and feels one is doing some good, but please don't feel that your departure hasn't been noticed and that your previous work hasn't been appreciated. That goes for several of you.
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QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Tue 10th March 2009, 4:26pm) QUOTE(Kevin @ Tue 10th March 2009, 12:33am) QUOTE(LaraLove @ Tue 10th March 2009, 1:18pm) QUOTE(Kevin @ Tue 10th March 2009, 12:14am) I think any statement an individual could make is destined to be lost in the noise.
I think a good statement to serve as a record as to why you resigned and/or retired is a positive. The more admins that drop for the same reasons, the more likely some change will eventually be pushed through. Sending a message is important, in my opinion. I have made a statement of sorts, so that others will know my reasons. I can't see it having any impact whatsoever though, unless the resignations ramp up significantly. Kevin Although there has always been a high degree of turnover among all levels of Wikipedia participants, including the various types of functionaries, I can assure you that the recent raft of resignations, retirements, or semi-inactivities has been noted and is the subject of concern. Real life issues come first, of course, and so does the principle that one only gives volunteer time where one is having some fun and feels one is doing some good, but please don't feel that your departure hasn't been noticed and that your previous work hasn't been appreciated. That goes for several of you. Cool... So, should I make a very dramatic "I am not resigning" message on my talkpage, or is the ArbCom going to simply provide me with a "What? Still here?" Barnstar? Or are you going to pretend to ignore the couple of cock-ups I made with my sysop flags this last week as my reward? (No disrespect to Foz and the others who have recently handed back the keys - and sometimes the pen as well - and whose decision I believe is in keeping with their genuine belief that it is for the best for everyone involved.)
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QUOTE(LessHorrid vanU @ Tue 10th March 2009, 10:12pm) QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Tue 10th March 2009, 4:26pm) QUOTE(Kevin @ Tue 10th March 2009, 12:33am) QUOTE(LaraLove @ Tue 10th March 2009, 1:18pm) QUOTE(Kevin @ Tue 10th March 2009, 12:14am) I think any statement an individual could make is destined to be lost in the noise.
I think a good statement to serve as a record as to why you resigned and/or retired is a positive. The more admins that drop for the same reasons, the more likely some change will eventually be pushed through. Sending a message is important, in my opinion. I have made a statement of sorts, so that others will know my reasons. I can't see it having any impact whatsoever though, unless the resignations ramp up significantly. Kevin Although there has always been a high degree of turnover among all levels of Wikipedia participants, including the various types of functionaries, I can assure you that the recent raft of resignations, retirements, or semi-inactivities has been noted and is the subject of concern. Real life issues come first, of course, and so does the principle that one only gives volunteer time where one is having some fun and feels one is doing some good, but please don't feel that your departure hasn't been noticed and that your previous work hasn't been appreciated. That goes for several of you. Cool... So, should I make a very dramatic "I am not resigning" message on my talkpage, or is the ArbCom going to simply provide me with a "What? Still here?" Barnstar? Or are you going to pretend to ignore the couple of cock-ups I made with my sysop flags this last week as my reward? (No disrespect to Foz and the others who have recently handed back the keys - and sometimes the pen as well - and whose decision I believe is in keeping with their genuine belief that it is for the best for everyone involved.) I'm surprised that anyone would take Newyorkbrad's statement seriously. Who exactly is concerned about the recent raft of resignations and so on? Whoever they are, if they're so concerned, why haven't they made those concerns public, and done something about it? I would go on, but I don't think there's any point in stirring through all that grease looking for the meat. This post has been edited by Malleus:
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