QUOTE(One @ Sun 17th May 2009, 7:33am)
Why do you think he wants change? He seems to want his vision of 2005 to last forever. To Gomi, Jayjg is an unstoppably powerful overlord, and arbitrators are still his toadies as witnessed by "only" stripping him of his rights and position (an event he repeatedly predicted would not happen).
I was glad to see I am wrong about Jayjg's sanctions, but they are far from anything representing reform of Wikipedia. I have always described Wikipedia as being very much like a post-apocalyptic warlord society, in which those on the "in" can suddenly turn on those who are caught unawares, and this appears to be the case. Jayjg needed to get thrown under the bus, so that's what happened. The reason I see Wikipedia as being essentially the same as in 2005 is
because Wikipedia is essentially the same as in 2005. There have been no meaningful
structural changes in how the WP society operates: no new checks and balances, no meaningful reform of the admin class, just a few hangings to focus the remaining minions on acceptable behaviour. Sure, we have some new Arbcom members who, at first glance, appear to be slightly less corrupt and/or incompetent than their predecessors, but in a year or two they will be gone and nothing will be different.
QUOTE(One @ Sun 17th May 2009, 7:33am)
Anyhow, I don't have to comment here, and so I won't. I think it's unfair to Wikipedians who are not here; might even cause them to conclude that I'm WR's representative. If anyone wants to ask me about ArbCom cases, you can find me on Wikipedia.
Funnily enough, you don't have a problem coming here with pronouncements that Arbcom Has Done The Right Thing , but when asked questions about it, you scuttle off to Wikipedia, where if the same questions were asked the questioner would be inevitably banned for "incivility" or some other made-up excuse. These are the kinds of behaviours that make me think I should join Jon Awbrey's camp.
QUOTE(Lar @ Sun 17th May 2009, 2:06pm)
If you beat up those working for change because they aren't getting there fast enough or getting there in precisely the way you'd prefer... who is left?
You'll need to let me know how this case, or Cool Hand Luke's participation in it, represents "change". I see no policy created, and I see no impediment to similar and ongoing abuse.
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that Jayjg and the rest of the POV crew on the Israel-Palestine articles got their comeuppance, I think it was long overdue and well-deserved. On the other hand, I find Luke's self-congratulatory tone to be depressing. They
barely. barely did the right thing, and now he wants a Nobel Prize and a free pass here at the
Review. Ain't gonna happen.