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There is an excellent ANI thread from February 2007 about Fys' abusive behaviour. Most of it consists in slightly abusive comments in comment boxes, and is rather lame by Damian standards. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=107528153 [liar JzG] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=107303125 (idiot) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=107301614 (idiot nss) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=107295308 (Idiot nss, I've selected the important EDMs, and try not to be an idiot in future) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=107206378 (Of course it's notable. Stop being an idiot and read what you're removing.) But there are lots of accusations of biasing Wikipedia articles to support UK government position, including one on the notorious Gilligan affair. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=107391057 Which prompted one opponent to comment QUOTE Everyone has their own political opinions and leanings, and while you certainly don't write articles to say "David Cameron is a Tory idiot", edits such as this [27] unquestionably demonstrate that you have a POV, as the edit is slanted against Gilligan and in favour of the government, certainly reading the evidence from the testimony you linked, it's not consistent with the slant of the article. Neutrality is a lot more subtle than bald political statements, and the presentation of evidence and summaries which appear to be balanced prima facie, but actually slant the reader towards a certain conclusion is actually rather more insidious and effective than overt bias. Nssdfdsfds 13:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I wonder how much more of this has been going on? (PS some very funny PCKB comments on that thread from Guy) [edit] The Andrew Gilligan article is interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&action=historyHere for example http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=103854599where fys removes the statement that Gilligan's claims turned out to be true, with the comment 'remove rubbish'. And note that he continued to intervene in that article in the Blacketer persona. This post has been edited by Peter Damian:
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Wed 27th May 2009, 6:36pm) QUOTE(Kato @ Wed 27th May 2009, 6:34pm) QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Wed 27th May 2009, 6:32pm) As you see from my subsequent edits to my post, I agree entirely - the edits he removed look like pure conspiracy theory. But to a conspiracy theorist - now knowing his identity - what does that look like?
The bit I was talking about wasn't a conspiracy theory - it was true. Gilligan was right. But it was poorly written and subjective, that's all, and deserved to be canned. And I agree with that too. But my point still applies. The thing is that most of Boothroyd's edits were using the name Dbiv, and he clearly stated who he was on his user page. He was quite open about it, and his involvement in Labour politics. Due to all these confusing name changes, it probably looks worse now than it did then. But keep in mind that most of his edits to those Labour articles were made transparently and weren't covert propaganda exercises. No matter what they look like now.
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Wed 27th May 2009, 5:47pm) QUOTE(Kato @ Wed 27th May 2009, 6:40pm)
Due to all these confusing name changes, it probably looks worse now than it did then. But keep in mind that most of his edits to those Labour articles were made transparently and weren't covert propaganda exercises. No matter what they look like now.
Actually I am confused now. Are you saying those edits I linked to and appear to be by 'fys' were at the time visibly by Boothroyd? [edit] I have looked at User:dbiv history and also User:fys - where does it identify him explicitly with Boothroyd? The point Kato is trying to make is: then, there was no User:Fys. The log linking the two is here. User renaming has had a messed-up half-implementation for a while - it's better now than it was at the time (I believe the block log in question would have had both sides updated if the rename were done today) This post has been edited by Random832:
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QUOTE(Random832 @ Wed 27th May 2009, 7:09pm) QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Wed 27th May 2009, 5:47pm) QUOTE(Kato @ Wed 27th May 2009, 6:40pm)
Due to all these confusing name changes, it probably looks worse now than it did then. But keep in mind that most of his edits to those Labour articles were made transparently and weren't covert propaganda exercises. No matter what they look like now.
Actually I am confused now. Are you saying those edits I linked to and appear to be by 'fys' were at the time visibly by Boothroyd? [edit] I have looked at User:dbiv history and also User:fys - where does it identify him explicitly with Boothroyd? The point Kato is trying to make is: then, there was no User:Fys. The log linking the two is here. User renaming has had a messed-up half-implementation for a while - it's better now than it was at the time (I believe the block log in question would have had both sides updated if the rename were done today) Yes. That's basically it. I remember seeing political edits by this guy 3-4 years ago under the name Dbiv which linked to a very clear biography on his user page. He was very open about the fact he was a Labour Councillor etc - until the arbcom incident in 2007, at which point he obviously ducked out and changed name. Much as we'd like to relish an arbitrator falling down the stairs, his behavior wasn't as sinister as it might seem in retrospect. And this is due to the software renaming his edits. At the time he made many of his controversial political edits, they were made in his real name. They've been changed to Fys retrospectively.
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Wed 27th May 2009, 11:13pm) QUOTE(Kato @ Wed 27th May 2009, 11:08pm) Yes. That's basically it. I remember seeing political edits by this guy 3-4 years ago under the name Dbiv which linked to a very clear biography on his user page. He was very open about the fact he was a Labour Councillor etc - until the arbcom incident in 2007, at which point he obviously ducked out and changed name.
Much as we'd like to relish an arbitrator falling down the stairs, his behavior wasn't as sinister as it might seem in retrospect. And this is due to the software renaming his edits. At the time he made many of his controversial political edits, they were made in his real name. They've been changed to Fys retrospectively.
I'm still confused because, if you look at my post, I did say I checked out the history of User:DBiv, meaning the user page. It doesn't say anything about who or what he is (I may be mistaken). The contribs history has presumably been moved and the old user pages with the info deleted. I remember the old user page quite vividly from some 3-4 years ago, his credentials were interesting and I made a mental note. Brandt also must have noticed because he added the details to Hivemind at least 2 years ago. QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Wed 27th May 2009, 11:17pm) The revisions are deleted & I won't undelete them under the circumstances, but I can confirm that his userpage did contain a full admission of who he was ( hint). Thanks. I was starting to doubt my own memory, but no, he was certainly open about himself and wasn't editing those articles as some kind of covert New Labour propaganda exercise.
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