QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Tue 14th July 2009, 2:07pm)
You've missed out my motivation for opposing it, which I think is driving quite a lot of the opposition (at least, my explanation of it currently has over 30 "endorses"): that WP does need change, and some kind of council is a good idea, but the way this particular council has been presented
de novo looks to an outside observer like Jimbo and Arbcom creating a Provisional Government of their buddies (and Jimbo's "
I think such a body should be composed of a fairly large number of people, including some who are generally regarded as difficult characters or agitants - those voices need to be heard, even if in the main their proposals would be voted down" makes it pretty clear that he intends this group to be a rubber stamp for his assorted Bright Ideas). Thus any ideas coming from this council as currently constituted, no matter how good, are going to be seen as The Will Of The Cabal and won't be taken as seriously as they should.
This is how the community damns itself. Regardless of the value in an argument, too often more consideration is given to who is making the argument. I've done it before, too. Someone I consider a complete toolbox makes a good point, and my first instinct is to dismiss it. Luckily, I'm not a complete knob, so I read it again objectively, then I support it.
Shankbone knows this. As does Ottava and some others. I often agree with people I generally have little to no respect for.
Where the argument or proposal or opinion comes from is of little relevance when your focus is on what's best for the project.