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Benjiboi, and his 2 autobiographies |
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the Dude abides
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Not many editors have their own autobiography, Benji is perhaps the only one to have two. His DJ Pusspuss persona is a self-described American club, mobile and event DJ, music reviewer, activist and event producer. While Sister Kitty Catalyst O.C.P., is a self-described uber-nun and homo-propagandist. He is also mostly responsible for Sisters_of_Perpetual_Indulgence (T-H-L-K-D), a non-profit organization he works for, and the bios of several of his fellow nuns. Concerns about an undisclosed conflict of interest and unlabeled autobiographies have been brought up a couple of times on wiki before, in 2007 and 2008. They were brushed aside by Benji and a small group of his enablers. There is very little doubt it is all true though. (thanks to an anonymous tipster)
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I have as much free time as a Wikipedia admin!
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QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Tue 8th September 2009, 12:15pm) Do I win a prize?
How about an all-expenses-paid romantic weekend with Newyorkbrad at the beautiful Mardi Gras Motel, located just two blocks away from the Boardwalk in Atlantic City? Hot water and HBO included in the room. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 8th September 2009, 1:01pm) Shankbone wants to merge with Benji? Oh dear, this kind of ribald talk is totally inappropriate for a family-friendly web site. Think of the effects it will have on the kids! Quick, someone cover Juliancolton's eyes before he reads this! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Tue 8th September 2009, 1:14pm) I dunno, Mr. Fudd...what does a Damian sock look like? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/bored.gif)
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Tue 8th September 2009, 6:40pm) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 8th September 2009, 6:22pm) I dunno, Mr. Fudd...what does a Damian sock look like? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/bored.gif) Read carefully the explanation in the post. QUOTE(Robert Roberts @ Tue 8th September 2009, 6:27pm) It's laughable - I think that edit is considered fine because he hasn't taken the addition step of explictly saying "oh and that is user Benjiboi". Even at this stage, people are trying to maintain the idea that there is an account to out - that happened days ago!
Interesting also there is no concern about a genuine danger. The personae in question (the DJ and the 'nun') presumably keep their real name private because it is easily linked to an address and telephone number. That is of course no concern to Wikipedians. The real concern is that the name should be linked to an anonyous account - which contains no real world information to speak of. Another example of the upside down moral world of Wikipedians. Ahh, but you don't see. If it was to be known that that person used Wikipedia - what a scandal! The idea that an unknown, nun-loving genderfuck DJ should tarnish his good name by editing Wikipedia!
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QUOTE(Deodand @ Tue 8th September 2009, 12:55pm) Ahh, but you don't see. If it was to be known that that person used Wikipedia - what a scandal! The idea that an unknown, nun-loving genderfuck DJ should tarnish his good name by editing Wikipedia! The infamy! This is nothing new, of course - WP'ers have a long history of this sort of thing. They want to believe that "editing" is a dangerous, personally risky activity, because that affirms their collective self-image as revolutionaries and iconoclasts. Maintaining their own privacy is paramount, because illusory "IRL threats" could get in the way of their vital mission to destroy whatever's left of academic and journalistic tradition. Meanwhile, everyone else can go stuff it - "privacy is a quaint and antiquated notion" for anybody who fits someone's arbitrary definition of "notable," as JoshuaZ or Shankers might say.
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QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 8th September 2009, 7:44pm) QUOTE(Deodand @ Tue 8th September 2009, 12:55pm) Ahh, but you don't see. If it was to be known that that person used Wikipedia - what a scandal! The idea that an unknown, nun-loving genderfuck DJ should tarnish his good name by editing Wikipedia! The infamy! This is nothing new, of course - WP'ers have a long history of this sort of thing. They want to believe that "editing" is a dangerous, personally risky activity, because that affirms their collective self-image as revolutionaries and iconoclasts. Maintaining their own privacy is paramount, because illusory "IRL threats" could get in the way of their vital mission to destroy whatever's left of academic and journalistic tradition. Meanwhile, everyone else can go stuff it - "privacy is a quaint and antiquated notion" for anybody who fits someone's arbitrary definition of "notable," as JoshuaZ or Shankers might say. Ahh, but you're missing the point. You see, "notable" people aren't "important" people. "important" people edit Wikipedia - that's why personal and libelous information about "notable" people is fine (until it affects the "important" people) but any possible threat to "important" people is a heinous crime. Until something affects the "important" people enough to shock them out of their narcissistic little daydream (y'know, that fun one where they're the ruler of the world and everyone does what they say? That one) it's not going to be noticed or dealt with. Of course, once it's been noticed, they'll move heaven and earth to protect their incredibly important real life and the valuable work they do as a legal secretary, or owner of a comic book shop, or part-time DJ on benefits, or something.
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QUOTE(Deodand @ Tue 8th September 2009, 2:57pm) ...You see, "notable" people aren't "important" people. "important" people edit Wikipedia - that's why personal and libelous information about "notable" people is fine (until it affects the "important" people) but any possible threat to "important" people is a heinous crime. Until something affects the "important" people enough to shock them out of their narcissistic little daydream (y'know, that fun one where they're the ruler of the world and everyone does what they say? That one) it's not going to be noticed or dealt with. Mr. Deodand, I can already see you're going to have a bright future with us here at WR! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) Pretty soon, I'll be able to retire... Nevertheless, we probably are making a bit too much of this particular incident - Shankers has a well-known proclivity for identifying people, particularly LGBT folks like himself (though we can only guess why), and it's a known fact that they can't, or won't, ban him - I guess they're afraid of him somehow. Regardless, I doubt that the majority of people voting in these AfD's are particularly interested in making an example of Mr. Holmann, privacy-wise - it actually looks like most of them seem to think both articles should be deleted, or at least fall into the "deletable" category. So, at the risk of sounding overly pro-WP, perhaps we should be focusing more on the wisdom of what appears to be the majority, at least in this case.
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tarantino Benjiboi A Horse With No Name And the point is...? :bored: JayT
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[quote name='JayT' post='192779' date='Sat 5th Se... One
I take it this hasn't been acknowledged on wi... gomi [quote name='JayT' post='192779' date='Sat 5th Sep... No one of consequence
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I got the same tip but I don't have time to p... Peter Damian
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One of Wikipedia... Peter Damian B has an interesting view of what constitutes a pe... Peter Damian Oh I see someone called 'The Land Surveyor... carbuncle
Oh I see someone called 'The Land Surveyor... A Horse With No Name
I wonder if this AFD will bring the esteemed LGBT... Tower Only if Matt Sanchez shows up. :grin:
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[quote name='carbuncle' post='192827' date='Sat 5... Peter Damian I suspect the whistleblowing may have come from th... Peter Damian All is explained.
[edit] And indeed the Land Su... A Horse With No Name [edit] And indeed the Land Surveyor has been block... Peter Damian
[edit] And indeed the Land Surveyor has been bloc... A Horse With No Name
[quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='192881' ... Robert Roberts Some movement on this one - .
I notice that Scot... carbuncle Second autobio deletion discussion link. Peter Damian An amusing quote from a related discussion on Skom... Robert Roberts Interesting to note that both of those articles se... Deodand
Interesting to note that both of those articles s... JayT
Interesting to note that both of those articles s... Robert Roberts
Interesting to note that both of those articles ... One For what it's worth, I think Vary is making a ... Deodand Benjiboi's response to the query about his ide... tarantino
Benjiboi's response to the query about his id... MBisanz The outing policy, as I see it, serves some useful... Deodand
The outing policy, as I see it, serves some usefu... Moulton Wikipedia is a magnet for narcissists who, on the ... Robert Roberts Just seen this on the Sister Kitty AFD
Comment - ... carbuncle
Just seen this on the Sister Kitty AFD
Comment -... Robert Roberts
[quote name='Robert Roberts' post='193049' date='... carbuncle Benjiboi's evasive responses to questions abou... Robert Roberts
Benjiboi's evasive responses to questions abo... Peter Damian And now Crafty has been blocked for pointing out t... Robert Roberts As I said earlier, the only difference here is the... Peter Damian Even this comment was removed
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[url=http://en.wi... One I really think this should go into BLP so that it ... Peter Damian
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http://en.wi... Peter Damian And Crafty is now indef'd. Two indefs so far ... MBisanz I hope my proposal at ANI is seen as useful to the... Peter Damian
I hope my proposal [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w... nableezy
I think that would be useful. Or something even... MBisanz
Actually the existing policy is quite strong: it... Peter Damian
Careful Peter, as anyone in an AFD debate will te... A Horse With No Name
I hope my proposal at ANI is seen as useful to th... Peter Damian
My goodness, I am reading this ANI and it seems l... A Horse With No Name
Unless you have something remotely constructive t... Peter Damian
Unless you have something remotely constructive ... A Horse With No Name
Then there are those who don't take it seriou... Peter Damian
Surely not. My reading that he was very angry ... MBisanz
Surely not. My reading that he was very angry... Peter Damian
If I didn't say it here, I could be called a ... Grep Is it possible that Benji is being thrown to the w... A Horse With No Name
Is it possible that Benji is being thrown to the ... tarantino
He has been a non-controversial editor ...
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He describes himself as a propagandist. He's ... tarantino
Hmmm...and what's it to you, bub?
It's... Tower I am kind of curious that Benji, of all people, is... Robert Roberts To be honest, it seems to kick off after it was me... Lar
Surely not. My reading that he was very angry... EricBarbour So, if it's "acceptable" for Benjibo... A Horse With No Name
So, if it's "acceptable" for Benjib... EricBarbour [quote name='EricBarbour' post='193151' date='Mon ... A Horse With No Name
Well, HE GOT CAUGHT. And admins are popping out o... Somey ...Benji doesn't go around making bad blocks o... Tower
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So, if it's "acceptable" for Benji... Tower
[quote name='Tower' post='193166' date='Tue 8th S... Robert Roberts Cameron Scott now seems to be going after the main... Deodand So edit-warring to restore outed information is bl... Deodand
...You see, "notable" people aren't... Somey But do they want to delete them because:
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David Shankbone says [url=http://en.wikipedia.org... Robert Roberts It's laughable - I think that edit is consider... Deodand
It's laughable - I think that edit is conside... carbuncle
It's laughable - I think that edit is conside... Robert Roberts
and inserting big pictures of himself in a third... Deodand
and inserting big pictures of himself in a thir... EricBarbour Okay, let's see.
AFD for Sister Kitty.: curre... nableezy
Fences and windows, you are an asshole. Just BTW.... tarantino 40 new members have joined WR since this thread st... Peter Damian Poor Benji has had another of his articles nominat... MBisanz
Poor Benji has had another of his articles nomina... A Horse With No Name Say, do any of you guys actually find Benji attrac... dtobias
Say, do any of you guys actually find Benji attra... A Horse With No Name
[quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='193363' ... Deodand
Hmmm...Scarykitty started in 2004 with a focus on... One
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Hm... A Horse With No Name
Horsey wins this one.
Awww, thanks! :wub: Peter Damian
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So Scarykitty has leapt into action to protect Sl... Robert Roberts This could get interesting - it looked like Benjib... Deodand
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This could get interesting - it looked like Benji... Robert Roberts
This could get interesting - it looked like Benj... Peter Damian
This could get interesting - it looked like Benji... One Is he implying that his WP:PAID opponents are behi... Robert Roberts
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Just last night I ran across an admin who has ins... MBisanz
Just last night I ran across an admin who has in... carbuncle
[quote name='CharlotteWebb' post='193513' date='T... CharlotteWebb
If I open a WR thread on him, people at WP will s... Somey I suggest you go back in time, decide not to menti... MBisanz
I suggest you go back in time, decide not to ment... Somey Thanks, but I decided to go ahead and put my money... KD Tries Again Peter, you certainly do have time on your hands. ... Peter Damian As I said earlier:
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[quote name='Lar' post='193584' date='Thu 10th Se... Peter Damian
methinks thou doth protest too much. :angry:
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As Thatcher has observed, my socks come with a l... Lar
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[quote name='Peter Damian' post='193589' date='Th... No one of consequence
Does it matter if a blocked person could be a va... Lar
Abusive socking in my book is when
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Dollars to dumplings, Fences and windows is an un... Alison Looks like [Slut Night] has been nuked now, too :m... carbuncle Starting a new thread because the old one was gett... Apathetic I don't even think this needs a post, let alon... carbuncle
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I should hope not. For the record, I have noth... Robert Roberts
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I don't even think this needs a post, let alo... FreiheitBaguette I'm new at this Board.
If this were just a g... Robert Roberts Nice bit of business here:
http://en.wikipedia.or... A Horse With No Name
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http://en.wikipedia.o... thekohser You mean, I could have denied my connections with ... carbuncle In this chapter of the seemingly never-ending stor... A Horse With No Name
This sounds like another job for the possibly hom... carbuncle Benjiboi seems to have decided that WR is the sour... Cock-up-over-conspiracy Benjiboi seems to have decided that WR is the sour... tarantino
[quote name='carbuncle' post='200381' date='Mon 1... RMHED
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In addition to editing Michael Lucas articles, B... Cock-up-over-conspiracy BTW, Benji has been known to use the alias [Sister... Somey Benjiboi seems to have decided that [url=http://en... Cock-up-over-conspiracy I have no problems with paid editing *but* Benji h... carbuncle
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[quote name='Alison' post='261404' date='Thu 9th... carbuncle I am shocked by these revelations! What terrib... Lar
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Yes, he has now suffe... Ottava I wonder how many of Benjiboi's socks are tryi... Doc glasgow It is, of course, a vast puritan conspiracy, which... Peter Damian
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