QUOTE(Anonymous editor @ Fri 25th September 2009, 3:14am)
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QUOTE(Shalom @ Thu 24th September 2009, 5:32pm)
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I think you know in your heart that my net contribution to Wikipedia is overwhelmingly positive: not a little positive, not moderately positive, but top-5,000 editor all time positive (which the statistics in every significant category accord with). I think you can't even begin to compare your own contributions to Wikipedia to mine: you are just a dilettante who never bothered to research and write anything of value, so you are taking out your inferiority complex by saying someone better than you is actually worse than you. Maybe if you reveal your WP account we can know for sure. Your trolling antics have succeeded in getting me to write how stupid you are, which I think is what you wanted, but you know you are wrong, and you will wake up someday and realize it. I know you will say the same to me, but I'm right and you are flat wrong.
You are such a child.
1)Claiming that your contributions are superior to mine is a thoroughly absurd claim. Not just because it isn't true, but because you have no idea of what you're talking about.
2)I am stupid? If we needed it, this is yet more evidence that you are a child. I never called you stupid. I don't think you're stupid. I just know that you've done a considerable amount of damage to Wikipedia. Hell, there are those who would congratulate you for that. I don't happen to be one of those people, but hey, you can't win them all. Your rebuttal is calling me stupid. Very clever, Shalom. You will go far with that wit.
3)Your constant cries for attention are getting to be quite alarming. I'm not a psychologist, but I do think you need to seek help for your obsession with Wikipedia and your delusions about the value of your contributions. Even if we ignore all of your vandalism, disruption, and socking, many of your articles are of little value. A large portion of them would not be missed. And no, in case you haven't figured it out yet, that doesn't mean you should start AfDs on all of them and demand they be deleted because someone on WR hurt your feelings.
4)A new name 2008 most likely did not abuse the right to vanish as you did. You are an abusive sockpuppeteer, and your lack of self awareness and sheer conceit precludes you from admitting to it.
5)I am aware that you have psychological issues, but even the most stubborn of deluded individuals would have noticed by now that most of the people who have commented are not sympathetic to your incessant ego trips and attention whoring. I don't think they were sympathetic to your spamming to get to 300 posts either, but I digress.
6)I anticipate your next post, which will call me stupid yet again. You haven't called me the dumbest poster on WR yet. Maybe you should try that tack.
Let's take on your claim that my contributions are worse than yours. Again, you refuse to reveal your username so that we can make a comparison, but I will suppose,
hypothetically, that you are
Anonymous editorÂ
(T-C-L-K-R-D)
on Wikipedia. This Canadian male has been an administrator since October 2005. He has not edited since summer 2006. He shows a pile of barnstars on his page (I got some too). He has 16,000+ edits; I have as Shalom 25,000+ and over all my accounts and IP addresses probably 30,000. He writes on his userpage:
"Stuff I do on wiki: Clean up articles: especially removing/rewording unfactual and unsourced information.
Removing vandalism on articles. Looks like vandalism doubles every week on wiki.
Trying to get articles to reach Neutral Point of View (NPOV).
Expanding articles that can use more information.
Many admin tasks."
I have done all of these things.
But let's look at the number of articles and redirects "Anonymous editor" created. The toolserver (see
http://toolserver.org/~escaladix/larticles/ and add "Anonymous editor" in the "User" box) says he wrote 16 new articles and 28 new redirects. By comparison, "Shalom Yechiel" wrote 328 articles and 443 redirects. LaraLove, who so enthusiastically thinks that my contributions are crap, wrote just
five articles and no redirects.
Moving on: it is extremely hypocritical for you to say that Wikipedia would be better off without my contributions, but the contributions should not be deleted. Hello? If Wikipedia would be
better without the articles I created, which comprise a large percentage of my net contribution, then
remove the articles and Wikipedia will be better off! To quote Andy asking the warden in Shawshank Redemption: "How can you be so obtuse?"
As to claiming that I personally did much to harm Wikipedia: I only wish I had harmed it more. But my vandalism edits are even less of a drop in the bucket than my article contributions. Let's look at the statistics: my 350 or so articles (counting ones I created on newer accounts) are slightly more than 1 in 10,000 articles with 3,000,000 total articles in Wikipedia. My vandalism edits: let's suppose there have been 500 in my life, but I think it's less. Wikipedia is probably bombarded by 500 vandalism edits every hour or two these days. I did hours of RC patrol and I would see multiple vandalism edits on a single screen of 50 edits in the last minute or so. As I write, there have been 50 blocks in the block log for the last 100 minutes (less than two hours). I contributed only a miniscule fraction to the administrative overhead of Wikipedia's anti-vandalism and anti-socking measures; and even if you negate every article I ever wrote, I did more to counteract vandalism and socking than I did on the dark side, even to this day.
Have you stopped reading Wikipedia because I vandalized an article? Has
anyone stopped reading for that reason? Name me one user who quit Wikipedia because I was involved. You can't. Now name me one user who has helped Wikipedia more because I was involved. Well, that's a little easier. I did more than 100 editor reviews, about 12 of them later became administrators, and I wrote successful RFA nominations for 4 editors (maybe 5).
Oh, and I am not a child. I suspect you are actually older than me, but Shappy (who came up in this thread) is less than half my age.
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