QUOTE(Deodand @ Thu 1st October 2009, 5:16am)
:Ahh, I thought you meant literal pinging. Please quote in context, please. The dispute was over whether it should be Andrew Bonar Law or Bonar Law. Law/Undertow presented a link to a book he claimed supported his view (Andrew Bonar Law). Full context was:
11:52] <The_Law>
http://books.google.com/books?id=9mj2hNGMh...r%20Law&f=false[11:52] <Ironholds> ..Law
[11:52] <Ironholds> Law
[11:52] <Ironholds> LAW
[11:52] <The_Law> i dont know why you decide to assail me
[11:52] <Ironholds> what's that book called
[11:53] <Ironholds> "Bonar Law"
[11:53] <Ironholds> in big gold capital letters
Rude, yes. Deliberate "pinging"? No.
And actually the statements from law:
[11:55] <The_Law> you know what meatpuppets are?
[11:57] <The_Law> keep talking meats
and the like make it clear that no, he meant literal meatpuppets. You were in the chan, you've got the logs. Stop quoting things out of context to support your little bitch.
I did mean literal pinging. If Ironholds was just repeating the man's last name repeatedly, then I've misinterpreted it. I still don't think that Chip was serious in his "accusation" of meatpuppetry. And no shit that I have logs, Sherlock. I've said that, summarized them and quoted them above. Jesus, you're quick. As far as bitches go, I am one but I am no one's. And Chip surely isn't my bitch. Now you're just being fucktarded.
QUOTE(Deodand @ Thu 1st October 2009, 6:20am)
My comments were addressed to Lara, not to you. Either you're her bitch or she's yours - either way, all I see is her skewing a bad position to portray you as an innocent party here. Those comments above about beating a path to my door? From what I hear they were replicated to Ironholds, but with the addition of violent threats. Doesn't sound too much like an innocent party to me. I've been given the full logs by Ironholds and at no point did he try and "twist you to his will" and make you move it with threats - his threat to out you was after you threatened to own him and destroy his on- and off-wiki existence.
Oh, my. The "I wasn't talk to you, I was talking to her about you" bit. Cork it. It's supremely silly to jump on someone for responding to you on a public message board when you weren't addressing them
particularly when it's them you're talking about.
Now, for your point, do note that it was Ironholds who first said he was going to kick Law's ass up and down the wiki until he was shitting blood. Now, let's put this in perspective:
Ironholds, in England, fears for his safety from Chip in California. So let's assume Ironhold is being serious (which is a stretch) and consider then why he would think it a good idea to attempt to get Chip banned on a website. Take a moment to ponder that...
I don't know where your mind went, but mine thought, "Hmm, probably not the best option. That would probably just piss him off more. And, if he's willing to fly across the US and the Atlantic to get to you, you've just freed up his time." Like, really... be real. He didn't fear for his safety, that's bullshit. Because if he did, he wouldn't have poked the fucking bear by turning him in.
It was purely a matter of being pissed over the argument, which he provoked, and so he went to make trouble for Chip. In the process it's fucked up shit all over the place, because apparently a HUGE chunk of the active community knew. Pretty much everyone who doesn't suck was told. I've got emails from people I've never heard of that knew. People emailing support because they're afraid they'll get targeted on-wiki for having known. It's crazy. Crazy stupid.
Jesus. Who cares? He socked. Shocker.
QUOTE(Malleus @ Thu 1st October 2009, 8:32am)
I always thought "bitch" was just an observation, not an insult. I've called Lara a bitch a few times, but probably not as often as she's called herself a bitch. She's also been kind enough to say that I have am a dick of porn star proportions. It's just talk, doesn't hurt anyone, and in fact it often makes me laugh.
<3
QUOTE(Deodand @ Thu 1st October 2009, 8:38am)
I don't think it's feasible to call Lara a bitch as often as she does. I mean you could, if you didn't mind giving up other parts of your day, like meals and breathing.
I don't call myself a bitch that often. WTF are you talking about. He'd only need to sacrifice part of his daily routine if he were going to call me a bitch as often as I am one. Get your wording right.
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 1st October 2009, 9:13am)
QUOTE(One @ Wed 30th September 2009, 8:02pm)
QUOTE(SirFozzie @ Thu 1st October 2009, 12:01am)
Well, Casliber's statement puts a new spin to it...
After thinking about it, I can't even say I'm disappointed in Casliber and/or Lara. They didn't do anything.. it was Undertow/Law who put them in a rough spot. I can empathize. Trust me.
For reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arb...y_from_CasliberIt is nice to see Arbcom members actively encouraging sockpuppetry by "banned" editors. If it is good enough for Casliber's friends, does that mean it is good enough for everyone? Or are there two different rules that Arbcom plays by? (IMG:
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And, for the record, how many members of Arbcom knew about Law's history? And did Daniel, the Arbcom clerk, also know about it in advance?
Upset your sock return wasn't endorsed by a member of the Committee?