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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=312524681
Interesting. I have to say that I didn't see this coming, but hindsight being what it is, it makes sense. |
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Exactly!
Actually several bits of the early segment there are complete bollocks. He was pinged once because he'd repeatedly gone "discussion should be on wiki" and ignored Ironholds' requiest to "name a time and place". Ironholds was pushing for on-wiki discussion; your account makes it sound like Law just randomly thought of this in an attempt to stay "chill". The whole "sidekick" section was a joke based on the fact that Law had called Dan/Iron "meatpuppets" in some way or shape. [2009-09-29 06:53:10] <Ironholds> Law [2009-09-29 06:53:10] <The_Law> i dont know why you decide to assail me [2009-09-29 06:53:11] <Ironholds> LAW Three times in three seconds. That's once? I guess if you add them together and divide by three, then yea... that's once. And I think it's a far stretch of the imagination to think Law was literally calling Daniel and Ironholds meatpuppets. Regardless, completely inappropriate to go on with the sidekick shit. |
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Exactly! Actually several bits of the early segment there are complete bollocks. He was pinged once because he'd repeatedly gone "discussion should be on wiki" and ignored Ironholds' requiest to "name a time and place". Ironholds was pushing for on-wiki discussion; your account makes it sound like Law just randomly thought of this in an attempt to stay "chill". The whole "sidekick" section was a joke based on the fact that Law had called Dan/Iron "meatpuppets" in some way or shape. [2009-09-29 06:53:10] <Ironholds> Law [2009-09-29 06:53:10] <The_Law> i dont know why you decide to assail me [2009-09-29 06:53:11] <Ironholds> LAW Three times in three seconds. That's once? I guess if you add them together and divide by three, then yea... that's once. And I think it's a far stretch of the imagination to think Law was literally calling Daniel and Ironholds meatpuppets. Regardless, completely inappropriate to go on with the sidekick shit. :Ahh, I thought you meant literal pinging. Please quote in context, please. The dispute was over whether it should be Andrew Bonar Law or Bonar Law. Law/Undertow presented a link to a book he claimed supported his view (Andrew Bonar Law). Full context was: 11:52] <The_Law> http://books.google.com/books?id=9mj2hNGMh...r%20Law&f=false [11:52] <Ironholds> ..Law [11:52] <Ironholds> Law [11:52] <Ironholds> LAW [11:52] <The_Law> i dont know why you decide to assail me [11:52] <Ironholds> what's that book called [11:53] <Ironholds> "Bonar Law" [11:53] <Ironholds> in big gold capital letters Rude, yes. Deliberate "pinging"? No. And actually the statements from law: [11:55] <The_Law> you know what meatpuppets are? [11:57] <The_Law> keep talking meats and the like make it clear that no, he meant literal meatpuppets. You were in the chan, you've got the logs. Stop quoting things out of context to support your little bitch. |
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Exactly! Actually several bits of the early segment there are complete bollocks. He was pinged once because he'd repeatedly gone "discussion should be on wiki" and ignored Ironholds' requiest to "name a time and place". Ironholds was pushing for on-wiki discussion; your account makes it sound like Law just randomly thought of this in an attempt to stay "chill". The whole "sidekick" section was a joke based on the fact that Law had called Dan/Iron "meatpuppets" in some way or shape. [2009-09-29 06:53:10] <Ironholds> Law [2009-09-29 06:53:10] <The_Law> i dont know why you decide to assail me [2009-09-29 06:53:11] <Ironholds> LAW Three times in three seconds. That's once? I guess if you add them together and divide by three, then yea... that's once. And I think it's a far stretch of the imagination to think Law was literally calling Daniel and Ironholds meatpuppets. Regardless, completely inappropriate to go on with the sidekick shit. :Ahh, I thought you meant literal pinging. Please quote in context, please. The dispute was over whether it should be Andrew Bonar Law or Bonar Law. Law/Undertow presented a link to a book he claimed supported his view (Andrew Bonar Law). Full context was: 11:52] <The_Law> http://books.google.com/books?id=9mj2hNGMh...r%20Law&f=false [11:52] <Ironholds> ..Law [11:52] <Ironholds> Law [11:52] <Ironholds> LAW [11:52] <The_Law> i dont know why you decide to assail me [11:52] <Ironholds> what's that book called [11:53] <Ironholds> "Bonar Law" [11:53] <Ironholds> in big gold capital letters Rude, yes. Deliberate "pinging"? No. And actually the statements from law: [11:55] <The_Law> you know what meatpuppets are? [11:57] <The_Law> keep talking meats and the like make it clear that no, he meant literal meatpuppets. You were in the chan, you've got the logs. Stop quoting things out of context to support your little bitch. Let's make this clear. As Law, I refused to use my tools to make a page move that was clearly out of policy. When I refused, Daniel decided to do so. I disagreed. I was called some pretty shitty things. I don't log shit. My IRC client doesn't do it, nor have I seen a need for it. When I pointed out it should be taken on wiki, I was told that I was a bloody fool and will feel the full impact of a six-pack of Guinness up my ass, or something relative to that. There are those that do have the full logs. So while I didn't want to use the tools or be coerced into using them by a 6-time RfA hopeful and and Arb clerk, I told them to do what they need to do. Ironholds apparently needed to dime me out. Not really how I wanted to go out, but what the Hell? It happened. Before you call me a little bitch, please realize that you will end up as unpopular as Ironholds. My friends online have ousted him for causing this situation. My enemies have ousted him for sitting on this information. The rest have castigated him for using this information to coerce an admin into his bidding. There is no win here. And yes, I see a little undertow coming out. 2 days of this shit, where I've kept quiet, and I think I deserve to vent. I've admitted and apologized to everyone and anyone. I've listened to just about every insult that I can take, but I'm nobody's bitch, nor have I ever been. I think you're a bit hurt that I could go through 2 successful RFAs, when all you have are personal attacks. But be a man about it - contact me directly for the discussion. Don't hide here. That sort of makes you the bitch. While I may not be the most popular person here, my identity is no secret. Anonymity may free you, but that is problem #1 with tough guys on the Internet. I'm quite confident with supplying you to a GoogleMaps path to my door should you want to have a beer and act as a peer, as opposed to another badass who hides behind a screen name. I don't feel that a violent approach is ever appropriate. If you are not willing to say such things in person, that is something altogether. PM me with your concerns. Have a beer with your concerns. But it's just too easy to drive-by and call someone a bitch. Anonymity is cowardice. Chip Kochendorfer As a caveat, while I don't have a loyalty with WR, nor do I expect the reciprocal, I do regret bringing the drama I have caused to this board. I'm at a point where I really don't want to sit by and watch the re-occurrence of my first Rfar, so if I have tainted this board with my obvious willingness to break silence and spew my disdain for those with who I don't quite understand, I have no problem with you removing me as a user. I never wanted this to spill over here, contrary to how I used this website as a noticeboard in the past. I really have a high tolerance. I just have hit my boiling point. This board, and all WR users, have my apologies for making this a WR issue. |
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Exactly! Actually several bits of the early segment there are complete bollocks. He was pinged once because he'd repeatedly gone "discussion should be on wiki" and ignored Ironholds' requiest to "name a time and place". Ironholds was pushing for on-wiki discussion; your account makes it sound like Law just randomly thought of this in an attempt to stay "chill". The whole "sidekick" section was a joke based on the fact that Law had called Dan/Iron "meatpuppets" in some way or shape. [2009-09-29 06:53:10] <Ironholds> Law [2009-09-29 06:53:10] <The_Law> i dont know why you decide to assail me [2009-09-29 06:53:11] <Ironholds> LAW Three times in three seconds. That's once? I guess if you add them together and divide by three, then yea... that's once. And I think it's a far stretch of the imagination to think Law was literally calling Daniel and Ironholds meatpuppets. Regardless, completely inappropriate to go on with the sidekick shit. :Ahh, I thought you meant literal pinging. Please quote in context, please. The dispute was over whether it should be Andrew Bonar Law or Bonar Law. Law/Undertow presented a link to a book he claimed supported his view (Andrew Bonar Law). Full context was: 11:52] <The_Law> http://books.google.com/books?id=9mj2hNGMh...r%20Law&f=false [11:52] <Ironholds> ..Law [11:52] <Ironholds> Law [11:52] <Ironholds> LAW [11:52] <The_Law> i dont know why you decide to assail me [11:52] <Ironholds> what's that book called [11:53] <Ironholds> "Bonar Law" [11:53] <Ironholds> in big gold capital letters Rude, yes. Deliberate "pinging"? No. And actually the statements from law: [11:55] <The_Law> you know what meatpuppets are? [11:57] <The_Law> keep talking meats and the like make it clear that no, he meant literal meatpuppets. You were in the chan, you've got the logs. Stop quoting things out of context to support your little bitch. Let's make this clear. As Law, I refused to use my tools to make a page move that was clearly out of policy. When I refused, Daniel decided to do so. I disagreed. I was called some pretty shitty things. I don't log shit. My IRC client doesn't do it, nor have I seen a need for it. When I pointed out it should be taken on wiki, I was told that I was a bloody fool and will feel the full impact of a six-pack of Guinness up my ass, or something relative to that. There are those that do have the full logs. So while I didn't want to use the tools or be coerced into using them by a 6-time RfA hopeful and and Arb clerk, I told them to do what they need to do. Ironholds apparently needed to dime me out. Not really how I wanted to go out, but what the Hell? It happened. Before you call me a little bitch, please realize that you will end up as unpopular as Ironholds. My friends online have ousted him for causing this situation. My enemies have ousted him for sitting on this information. The rest have castigated him for using this information to coerce an admin into his bidding. There is no win here. And yes, I see a little undertow coming out. 2 days of this shit, where I've kept quiet, and I think I deserve to vent. I've admitted and apologized to everyone and anyone. I've listened to just about every insult that I can take, but I'm nobody's bitch, nor have I ever been. I think you're a bit hurt that I could go through 2 successful RFAs, when all you have are personal attacks. But be a man about it - contact me directly for the discussion. Don't hide here. That sort of makes you the bitch. While I may not be the most popular person here, my identity is no secret. Anonymity may free you, but that is problem #1 with tough guys on the Internet. I'm quite confident with supplying you to a GoogleMaps path to my door should you want to have a beer and act as a peer, as opposed to another badass who hides behind a screen name. I don't feel that a violent approach is ever appropriate. If you are not willing to say such things in person, that is something altogether. PM me with your concerns. Have a beer with your concerns. But it's just too easy to drive-by and call someone a bitch. Anonymity is cowardice. Chip Kochendorfer As a caveat, while I don't have a loyalty with WR, nor do I expect the reciprocal, I do regret bringing the drama I have caused to this board. I'm at a point where I really don't want to sit by and watch the re-occurrence of my first Rfar, so if I have tainted this board with my obvious willingness to break silence and spew my disdain for those with who I don't quite understand, I have no problem with you removing me as a user. I never wanted this to spill over here, contrary to how I used this website as a noticeboard in the past. I really have a high tolerance. I just have hit my boiling point. This board, and all WR users, have my apologies for making this a WR issue. My comments were addressed to Lara, not to you. Either you're her bitch or she's yours - either way, all I see is her skewing a bad position to portray you as an innocent party here. Those comments above about beating a path to my door? From what I hear they were replicated to Ironholds, but with the addition of violent threats. Doesn't sound too much like an innocent party to me. I've been given the full logs by Ironholds and at no point did he try and "twist you to his will" and make you move it with threats - his threat to out you was after you threatened to own him and destroy his on- and off-wiki existence. |
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Exactly! Actually several bits of the early segment there are complete bollocks. He was pinged once because he'd repeatedly gone "discussion should be on wiki" and ignored Ironholds' requiest to "name a time and place". Ironholds was pushing for on-wiki discussion; your account makes it sound like Law just randomly thought of this in an attempt to stay "chill". The whole "sidekick" section was a joke based on the fact that Law had called Dan/Iron "meatpuppets" in some way or shape. [2009-09-29 06:53:10] <Ironholds> Law [2009-09-29 06:53:10] <The_Law> i dont know why you decide to assail me [2009-09-29 06:53:11] <Ironholds> LAW Three times in three seconds. That's once? I guess if you add them together and divide by three, then yea... that's once. And I think it's a far stretch of the imagination to think Law was literally calling Daniel and Ironholds meatpuppets. Regardless, completely inappropriate to go on with the sidekick shit. :Ahh, I thought you meant literal pinging. Please quote in context, please. The dispute was over whether it should be Andrew Bonar Law or Bonar Law. Law/Undertow presented a link to a book he claimed supported his view (Andrew Bonar Law). Full context was: 11:52] <The_Law> http://books.google.com/books?id=9mj2hNGMh...r%20Law&f=false [11:52] <Ironholds> ..Law [11:52] <Ironholds> Law [11:52] <Ironholds> LAW [11:52] <The_Law> i dont know why you decide to assail me [11:52] <Ironholds> what's that book called [11:53] <Ironholds> "Bonar Law" [11:53] <Ironholds> in big gold capital letters Rude, yes. Deliberate "pinging"? No. And actually the statements from law: [11:55] <The_Law> you know what meatpuppets are? [11:57] <The_Law> keep talking meats and the like make it clear that no, he meant literal meatpuppets. You were in the chan, you've got the logs. Stop quoting things out of context to support your little bitch. Let's make this clear. As Law, I refused to use my tools to make a page move that was clearly out of policy. When I refused, Daniel decided to do so. I disagreed. I was called some pretty shitty things. I don't log shit. My IRC client doesn't do it, nor have I seen a need for it. When I pointed out it should be taken on wiki, I was told that I was a bloody fool and will feel the full impact of a six-pack of Guinness up my ass, or something relative to that. There are those that do have the full logs. So while I didn't want to use the tools or be coerced into using them by a 6-time RfA hopeful and and Arb clerk, I told them to do what they need to do. Ironholds apparently needed to dime me out. Not really how I wanted to go out, but what the Hell? It happened. Before you call me a little bitch, please realize that you will end up as unpopular as Ironholds. My friends online have ousted him for causing this situation. My enemies have ousted him for sitting on this information. The rest have castigated him for using this information to coerce an admin into his bidding. There is no win here. And yes, I see a little undertow coming out. 2 days of this shit, where I've kept quiet, and I think I deserve to vent. I've admitted and apologized to everyone and anyone. I've listened to just about every insult that I can take, but I'm nobody's bitch, nor have I ever been. I think you're a bit hurt that I could go through 2 successful RFAs, when all you have are personal attacks. But be a man about it - contact me directly for the discussion. Don't hide here. That sort of makes you the bitch. While I may not be the most popular person here, my identity is no secret. Anonymity may free you, but that is problem #1 with tough guys on the Internet. I'm quite confident with supplying you to a GoogleMaps path to my door should you want to have a beer and act as a peer, as opposed to another badass who hides behind a screen name. I don't feel that a violent approach is ever appropriate. If you are not willing to say such things in person, that is something altogether. PM me with your concerns. Have a beer with your concerns. But it's just too easy to drive-by and call someone a bitch. Anonymity is cowardice. Chip Kochendorfer As a caveat, while I don't have a loyalty with WR, nor do I expect the reciprocal, I do regret bringing the drama I have caused to this board. I'm at a point where I really don't want to sit by and watch the re-occurrence of my first Rfar, so if I have tainted this board with my obvious willingness to break silence and spew my disdain for those with who I don't quite understand, I have no problem with you removing me as a user. I never wanted this to spill over here, contrary to how I used this website as a noticeboard in the past. I really have a high tolerance. I just have hit my boiling point. This board, and all WR users, have my apologies for making this a WR issue. My comments were addressed to Lara, not to you. Either you're her bitch or she's yours - either way, all I see is her skewing a bad position to portray you as an innocent party here. Those comments above about beating a path to my door? From what I hear they were replicated to Ironholds, but with the addition of violent threats. Doesn't sound too much like an innocent party to me. I've been given the full logs by Ironholds and at no point did he try and "twist you to his will" and make you move it with threats - his threat to out you was after you threatened to own him and destroy his on- and off-wiki existence. It doesn't matter at all. Expletives should be used in person. Not hiding behind some guise. Either I'm a bitch, or she's a bitch. There is no way I will tolerate either. Those types of attacks should be discussed in person. No violence was implied. If you are willing to make such vulgar attacks, you should be willing to do them in person. That is why I suggested a meeting. Perhaps you would be hard-pressed to act so boldly in person. Maybe not. But either way, you hide. I'm not interested in a pissing contest. I'm more from the school that if you call me a bitch, do it in person. If you call a woman a bitch, you have bigger problems that I can imagine. This board, and all WR users, have my apologies for making this a WR issue. It's a curious thing, but perhaps echoing something that Moni3 said on WP, I have a very short memory for editors, unlike so many others it seems. I recall that you and I (Law) exchanged some sharp words a few months ago, after which I got a few emails from those in the know suggesting that in the past we'd been on friendly terms and if i thought back I could probably work out who you really were. What they failed to realise was that I'm incorrigibly lazy with an appalling memory for anything that doesn't interest me. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) Anyway, eventually one of them told me of your previous username, but it still meant nothing to me. My laziness would preclude me from ever doing what you did, but it also gives me an understanding of the relief it must be to drop the pretence. I doubt you liked me as the_undertow. I had a huge disdain for you, ottava, and giano. But as Law, i grew up and did some observations. I realized that my incivility as UT was only overlooked by the fact that I was an admin. I also realized that CIV and NPA were things that I did not and would not uphold. As the_undertow and Law amalgamated, I realized that I was better suited to protect the editors from the admins who enforced such policies. Then again, I have always known that on the inside. Both Rfars stemmed from unblocking users. I'm far too lazy to adhere to heavy doctrine. I just know that I have done a 180 as far as my beliefs, and it shows with our discourse and well as my last unblock. I'm tired of civility. It is too much of an excuse to bait a great editor, like yourself, into a block, that would never happen over content. I think I made that clear as Law. You may not remember me as undertow, but my incivility made you look like an alter boy. |
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I doubt you liked me as the_undertow. ... But as Law, i grew up and did some observations. That leads to a deep question, which may deserve its own thread. If someone has several Internet names, as lots of people do, should we judge each identity separately or all the identities collectively by what the person behind them has done? In particular, if one of the identities has done something wrong, but the person has repented and started afresh with a new identity, can we forgive them? The Wikipedia policy on the latter seems to be no in theory, but sometimes yes in practice. |
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I doubt you liked me as the_undertow. ... But as Law, i grew up and did some observations. That leads to a deep question, which may deserve its own thread. If someone has several Internet names, as lots of people do, should we judge each identity separately or all the identities collectively by what the person behind them has done? In particular, if one of the identities has done something wrong, but the person has repented and started afresh with a new identity, can we forgive them? The Wikipedia policy on the latter seems to be no in theory, but sometimes yes in practice. As Law, I did what I could to be the buffer between editors and civility police. I stand by all my administrative actions. I also stand by all the articles I created and improved. As the_undertow, I can only apologize to everyone because I had the option to resign without incident. I was told that there was a small chance that I could continue editing. With that, I opted to resign (since there was no CU evidence), quietly, so long as I could go back to the_undertow. My only other option was to have the tools stripped and equated with the unblock of Child of Midnight. I guess my pride fucked everyone. It's not the first time I have let my friends down. I just hope that nobody believes that my real life persona reflect that of wiki. I fear that the mess I created has spiraled to a point to where even I am in a state. My guilt rivals that of real-life offenses. I can't stop this ride. I have cried, and appealed, and pleaded to stop all of this, but cannot. Things that are beyond my control get to me. The ends justify the means, but the ends here are devastating, even to someone who thinks WP is just a website. The damage I have done is irreversible. Just allow me some time to collect my thoughts. And please, hold off on the white pride, instability bullshit. I need to breathe. I am asking as a friend, and a member. |
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I fear that the mess I created has spiraled to a point to where even I am in a state. My guilt rivals that of real-life offenses. I can't stop this ride. I have cried, and appealed, and pleaded to stop all of this, but cannot. Things that are beyond my control get to me. The ends justify the means, but the ends here are devastating, even to someone who thinks WP is just a website. The damage I have done is irreversible. Just allow me some time to collect my thoughts. And please, hold off on the white pride, instability bullshit. I need to breathe. I am asking as a friend, and a member. I think we should respect this request on a human level and end this discussion, at least for now. Any more meta issues presented can be raised in a new thread. |
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I fear that the mess I created has spiraled to a point to where even I am in a state. My guilt rivals that of real-life offenses. I can't stop this ride. I have cried, and appealed, and pleaded to stop all of this, but cannot. Things that are beyond my control get to me. The ends justify the means, but the ends here are devastating, even to someone who thinks WP is just a website. The damage I have done is irreversible. Just allow me some time to collect my thoughts. And please, hold off on the white pride, instability bullshit. I need to breathe. I am asking as a friend, and a member. I think we should respect this request on a human level and end this discussion, at least for now. Any more meta issues presented can be raised in a new thread. Brad, you're such a softy. In my experience, when you give in to emotional extortion, you accomplish exactly one thing: you encourage more emotional extortion. I got no use for manipulative people, so I would never encourage such a thing. |
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I fear that the mess I created has spiraled to a point to where even I am in a state. My guilt rivals that of real-life offenses. I can't stop this ride. I have cried, and appealed, and pleaded to stop all of this, but cannot. Things that are beyond my control get to me. The ends justify the means, but the ends here are devastating, even to someone who thinks WP is just a website. The damage I have done is irreversible. Just allow me some time to collect my thoughts. And please, hold off on the white pride, instability bullshit. I need to breathe. I am asking as a friend, and a member. I think we should respect this request on a human level and end this discussion, at least for now. Any more meta issues presented can be raised in a new thread. Brad, you're such a softy. In my experience, when you give in to emotional extortion, you accomplish exactly one thing: you encourage more emotional extortion. I got no use for manipulative people, so I would never encourage such a thing. I have a question for Brad: were you aware of the Law-Undertow connection before this went public? And as a follow-up question: were other members of Arbcom also aware? A simple yes or no answer is more than fine - I've got the hot air quota covered. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif) |
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I fear that the mess I created has spiraled to a point to where even I am in a state. My guilt rivals that of real-life offenses. I can't stop this ride. I have cried, and appealed, and pleaded to stop all of this, but cannot. Things that are beyond my control get to me. The ends justify the means, but the ends here are devastating, even to someone who thinks WP is just a website. The damage I have done is irreversible. Just allow me some time to collect my thoughts. And please, hold off on the white pride, instability bullshit. I need to breathe. I am asking as a friend, and a member. I think we should respect this request on a human level and end this discussion, at least for now. Any more meta issues presented can be raised in a new thread. Brad, you're such a softy. In my experience, when you give in to emotional extortion, you accomplish exactly one thing: you encourage more emotional extortion. I got no use for manipulative people, so I would never encourage such a thing. I have a question for Brad: were you aware of the Law-Undertow connection before this went public? And as a follow-up question: were other members of Arbcom also aware? A simple yes or no answer is more than fine - I've got the hot air quota covered. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif) I was not. I've just commented in the arbitration case. |
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I was not. I've just commented in the arbitration case. Thank you, Brad. You are a gentleman. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) |
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