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Just following up on the general silliness of this David Shanbone, his exploitation of the Wikipedia online encyclopedia for personal advancement, and the Wiki-elite support of him ...• Over here, on the Administrators' noticeboard David Shankbone has a hissy over editors naming Israeli diplomat David Saranga on his snapshop taken at Porn King Michael Lucas's home alleging a Wikipedia Review conspiracy. QUOTE Howdy everyone. The subject image is not used anywhere in Wikimedia, yet its history shows that it has been very controversial. Recently, the Wikipedia Review has launched a harassment campaign related to me that 1) tried to have me topic banned on Wikipedia; 2) blacklist my blog; and 3) edit-war over this photo. Through OR on the Wikipedia Review a person in the photograph is being identified without any evidence ("looks like him"). The edit summaries are full of accusations against me, OR and BLP violations. Could someone please protect the image to remove the OR? • Over here on Wikimedia Commons Shankbone scweams and scweams ... QUOTE (Undo revision by Proabivouac the person is unidentified, and you do not know their identity beyond speculation, which makes this OR and creates BLP issues) • But over here, on English Wikipedia is the exact same snapshot uploaded by Shankbone with Israeli diplomat David Saranga clearly named. Credibility ... moi? What is credibility when one can have celebrity instead? Give the man his own Pee-dia page now! Lucas has mean while obviously been taking lessons in diplomacy from Saranga on Fire Island given his inspired letter to the US president.Lucas sent a letter to US President Barack Obama following the Canadian Border Services Agency's refusal to allow shipments containing DVDs of Lucas Entertainment's 'Farts!' and 'Piss!' to cross the border on the grounds that disallowing gay porn shipments into Canada could harm both countries' economies. I had no idea it was such a moral and high brow milieu. QUOTE Dear Mr. President:
Farts! and Piss! were seized by the Canadian Border Services Agency and deemed obscene according to their (and in my opinion, antiquated) decency standards.
There are a number of issues here that concern myself and international trade, and I believe you are the only person who can rectify this situation at this moment in time. Â Since you will be meeting with the Prime Minister of Canada today, I urge you to make what I detail below an item on your agenda, if it is not already a topic of conversation. I know that one of your points of discussion will be coordinating our nation's economic stimulus plan with Canada's.Â
Farts! and Piss!, just two of the productions that were denied importation into Canada, are highly successful titles from my Lucas Raunch line. Both have gone on to be among my best sellers in 2008 ... Piss! is also nominated for a GAYVN award for Best Fetish Video ...
Sincerely,
Michael Lucas No, it is not dated 1 April. More related dirt digging documented here on a blog called Wiki-Hell. " Nobody goes to Israel for Golda Meir, I'm so sorry," Lucas said in heavily Russian-accented English. " People don't care that you have a great orchestra, and they're not particularly interested in the Holocaust museum. Gay people, and straight people, want beautiful beaches, beautiful nature, beautiful men and women, good food, good hotels ... They need me." This post has been edited by Cock-up-over-conspiracy:
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QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Tue 20th October 2009, 3:24pm) No, it is not dated 1 April. Are you sure? That's one of the most hilarious things I've ever read in my whole life! Ya gotta wonder about these people... Just when you think they can't get any more ludicrous, ridiculous, and laughable, they come up with stuff like this. QUOTE(Happy drinker @ Tue 20th October 2009, 3:28pm) I am far from agreeing with what seems to be the prevalentl opinion of David Shankbone around here. He has supplied many good and useful pictures to the project; some are decidedly risque, true, but Wikipedia and Commons are not censored... Just what do you think the prevalent opinion of Mr. Shankers is, actually? I mean, you're sort of new around here... I've said it before and I'll say it again: As long as Shankers is an active, unbanned user on Wikipedia, nobody from Wikipedia has any right to criticize us or anyone else for any sort of alleged immoral, unethical, or otherwise unpleasant behavior whatsoever. We retain absolute moral superiority over Wikipedia as long as he's there, and for that matter, so does practically every other interactive website in existence. (Well, within reason I suppose.)
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QUOTE(Somey @ Wed 21st October 2009, 7:54am) Just what do you think the prevalent opinion of Mr. Shankers is, actually? I mean, you're sort of new around here...
I get the impression that he is regarded as a blatant self-publicist, who just into it for his own glory. He is derided for posting obscene photos, maybe of himself. Maybe so, but I don't care why someone contributes as long as they improve the project (which as I say is not censored). People there to disrupt the project, or to push their own POV (whether I agree with it or not) are not welcome. QUOTE I've said it before and I'll say it again: As long as Shankers is an active, unbanned user on Wikipedia, nobody from Wikipedia has any right to criticize us or anyone else for any sort of alleged immoral, unethical, or otherwise unpleasant behavior whatsoever. We retain absolute moral superiority over Wikipedia as long as he's there, and for that matter, so does practically every other interactive website in existence. (Well, within reason I suppose.)
If an editor on Wikipedia threatened to assault another editor, he'd be banned on the spot, wouldn't he? There'd be ructions here if he wasn't, right? What's the policy here? This post has been edited by Happy drinker:
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QUOTE(Happy drinker @ Wed 21st October 2009, 8:32am) QUOTE(Somey @ Wed 21st October 2009, 7:54am) Just what do you think the prevalent opinion of Mr. Shankers is, actually? I mean, you're sort of new around here...
I get the impression that he is regarded as a blatant self-publicist, who just into it for his own glory. He is derided for posting obscene photos, maybe of himself. Maybe so, but I don't care why someone contributes as long as they improve the project (which as I say is not censored). People there to disrupt the project, or to push their own POV (whether I agree with it or not) are not welcome. QUOTE I've said it before and I'll say it again: As long as Shankers is an active, unbanned user on Wikipedia, nobody from Wikipedia has any right to criticize us or anyone else for any sort of alleged immoral, unethical, or otherwise unpleasant behavior whatsoever. We retain absolute moral superiority over Wikipedia as long as he's there, and for that matter, so does practically every other interactive website in existence. (Well, within reason I suppose.)
If an editor on Wikipedia threatened to assault another editor, he'd be banned on the spot, wouldn't he? There'd be ructions here if he wasn't, right? What's the policy here? Hey, Happy... Do me a favor. I'm just curious of what your opinion is of the contributions Shankbone has made to Meta Wikimedia? Also, what are your thoughts on the time when he published a statement on Wikipedia that if I didn't stop removing the image of his chihuahua riding illegally on the NY subway system, he would retaliate in "a way you cannot even imagine"? I'm just curious to hear how an apologist such as yourself would successfully frame these issues. Also, note that if I say I have a desire to punch someone in the face, that does not mean I have any intention of carrying that out. Also, with the "victim" hiding behind a veil of a psedonym, it's rather silly to express dismay over such a statement. Besides, don't worry. Your value as an entertainment prop is growing on me. Looking forward to your answers!
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 21st October 2009, 2:46pm) Also, note that if I say I have a desire to punch someone in the face, that does not mean I have any intention of carrying that out. Also, with the "victim" hiding behind a veil of a psedonym, it's rather silly to express dismay over such a statement.
That's worth knowing - if you say something you don't mean it. Pseudonym? Is your name really "thekohser"? QUOTE(taiwopanfob @ Wed 21st October 2009, 2:58pm) Anonymous cult-apologist fuckwits who refer to the BLP victims as "fair game" desperately need to be punched in the face. Hard.
Anonymous? Is your name really 'taiwopanfob'? And that's not what I said at all. I said that those who advocate "dead tree notability" say that anyone who gets into a reference work becomes fair game. I on the contrary believe that such people should be treated no worse than anyone else - everything about them must be justified by reliable, verifiable sources (which of course excludes scandal rags). QUOTE(carbuncle @ Wed 21st October 2009, 3:08pm) Happy drinker, let me add a question to your list - if WP is not censored, as you have said a couple of times now, why did Jimmy Wales delete several Shankbone images of a gay porn film shoot? (No points for guessing the director of that film.)
I have no idea; I didn't even know he had. Ask him. QUOTE(taiwopanfob @ Wed 21st October 2009, 3:15pm) until Mr. Drinker abandons his odious position on BLP
It's odious to demand that everything in a BLP is sourced to reliable, verifiable sources? It's odious to refuse to treat people who get into encyclopedias less favourably than others? And please stop making so many assumptions about me. This post has been edited by Happy drinker:
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QUOTE(Happy drinker @ Wed 21st October 2009, 5:37pm) QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 21st October 2009, 2:46pm) Also, note that if I say I have a desire to punch someone in the face, that does not mean I have any intention of carrying that out. Also, with the "victim" hiding behind a veil of a psedonym, it's rather silly to express dismay over such a statement.
That's worth knowing - if you say something you don't mean it. Pseudonym? Is your name really "thekohser"? Anyway, no doubt I'll be outed some time. No, I still mean what I said. I still have the urge to punch you in the face. I think it would do you some good, in the long run. There's certain uninformed smugness about you that I'll just bet could be knocked out of you. However, there is little chance that I would act upon this urge, because I respect the law more highly than catering to my instinctive urges. If you don't know my name, where I live, and probably even my cell phone number, and you cannot find these bits of data within 45 seconds on the Internet, you may be retarded. Seek professional evaluation. Is this Guy Chapman? How are you coming on those answers to the questions associated with the topic of this thread? Gregory J. Kohs Aka "Thekohser" West Chester, PA Cell phone: Dial "R" for retarded
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 21st October 2009, 10:48pm) How are you coming on those answers to the questions associated with the topic of this thread?
I assumed it was the custom here not to respond to questions. People don't respond to mine. QUOTE(taiwopanfob @ Thu 22nd October 2009, 2:11am) QUOTE(Happy drinker @ Wed 21st October 2009, 9:41pm) It's odious to demand that everything in a BLP is sourced to reliable, verifiable sources? You've been told that everyone knows what is written on the side of the bottle. The problem, as everyone is telling you, is that the label does not reflect the contents of the bottle. That's why sources must be verifiable (so people can check for themselves if they wish) and reliable. Wikipedia is a tertiary source; it reports what reliable, verifiable secondary sources say.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 22nd October 2009, 1:39pm) But, I am a very busy man with a real job, real service to my real community, and a real family.
As I too have a real job, do much community service and have a family, I have no time to do this. QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Thu 22nd October 2009, 7:03pm) QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 21st October 2009, 5:48pm) Gregory J. Kohs Aka "Thekohser" West Chester, PA Cell phone: Dial "R" for retarded
Wait, you're retarded? Please, let's not make personal attacks. QUOTE(anthony @ Thu 22nd October 2009, 8:03pm) Err...What if they are there there to disrupt the project, or to push their own POV, but they improve the project?
Then they're pretty poor disrupters/POV pushers. It's a simple application of WP:IAR. If they genuinely improve the project with only minimal side effects, then cut them a bit of slack. Otherwise, don't. Peter Damian is a good example. As I said on another thread, he is a good editor and I'm really sorry to lose him, but really his negative effects were causing problems.
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