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QUOTE(tarantino @ Thu 22nd October 2009, 6:38pm) QUOTE(carbuncle @ Thu 22nd October 2009, 11:51am) QUOTE(Alison @ Thu 22nd October 2009, 10:55am) Someone needs to point out that [[John Reed (novelist)]] is the same John Reed who is on the staff of the Brooklyn Rail. It is obvious that some of those accounts are John Reed, but I'm not sure that Huckandraz is him. What do we know about his wife? Also, Judy Rifka, an article that Huckandraz started, is John Reed's mother and David Reed is his father. I have little doubt that Huckandraz is John Reed, along with half a dozen other user names. And AdjustShift gets into the fun by blocking an IP who is critical of Mr. Miller -- but the IP states that AdjustShift is a "sockpuppet administrator" -- http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=321379869Now comes the $64,000 Question: what socks are we talking about? And does Arbcom and the CU fun bunch know what is going on? I will put the question out to our Arbcom friends and our occasional CU visitors: is the IP correct in stating AdjustShift is a sockpuppeteer?
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 10:16am) QUOTE(No one of consequence @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 9:01am) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 1:27am) But if AdjustShift is a sockpuppeteer and you and the other checkusers know about it, then an explanation is in order on why AS is able to function as an admin despite this violation of policy -- which is particularly odd considering that Law/TU got banned and two well-regarded admins got desysopped for an identical situation.
Someone needs to put it up on Wiki (usually at WP:SPI). I would prefer to keep official business on-wiki, and I think Lar feels the same way. "I can't hear you. I have a banana in my ear." Wikipedians always have an ample supply of ready excuses for not hearing inconvenient things. This is not confined to Wikipedia, it's generally true. Try visiting DMV sometime (heck, any bureaucracy). QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 10:43am) Stop picking fights, it is obnoxious.
Mr. Pot... call your office. Mr. Kettle is waiting to take a meeting.
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QUOTE(Lar @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 10:48am) Mr. Pot... call your office. Mr. Kettle is waiting to take a meeting.
Listen, nobody is picking a fight with you. You reacted to the question raised by the IP about AdjustShift as if it was a personal slur -- which is odd, since you were never cited as part of the inquiry. I will raise one point, however -- some months ago, NuclearWarfare (of all people) stated on his talk page that he was informed by "checkusers" that they were aware of "banned" editors who became admins. He used the plural -- editors and admins. Now, I have no idea why NW would say such a thing or why any checkuser would confide in him. However, he doesn't strike me as a liar. And considering statements by Risker about how she allows sock accounts to flourish, I am suspicious. So let me put the question out on the table for any and all checkusers who are reading this: Are there any "banned" editors who are currently admins? A simple Yes or No answer is all that is required. Don't waste my time telling me what a terrible horse I am or how these inquiries belong on WP or blah blah blah -- just a Yes or No answer will be sufficient. Is NW correct when he says that checkusers know there are "banned" editors as admins, or is that statement incorrect? Just a Yes or No, please. Thanks.
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 6:22pm) I will raise one point, however -- some months ago, NuclearWarfare (of all people) stated on his talk page that he was informed by "checkusers" that they were aware of "banned" editors who became admins. He used the plural -- editors and admins.
Multiple editors I am positive of; admins I know of one for sure. ArbCom has indeed been informed of who it is (three times, actually). I only know of it because another administrator consulted with me while performing the investigation to see what I knew (some statements that I had made earlier suggested that I had known that the editor was a sock). It was the investigating administrator, not I, who forwarded the information to ArbCom, so I am unsure if ArbCom found the evidence conclusive enough, though I remember it being quite solid. Do you have a diff for when I said this though? I might have misphrased it; no checkuser has ever confided in me about allowing a banned editor to become an administrator. This post has been edited by NuclearWarfare:
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QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 7:08pm) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 6:22pm) I will raise one point, however -- some months ago, NuclearWarfare (of all people) stated on his talk page that he was informed by "checkusers" that they were aware of "banned" editors who became admins. He used the plural -- editors and admins.
Multiple editors I am positive of; admins I know of one for sure. ArbCom has indeed been informed of who it is (three times, actually). I only know of it because another administrator consulted with me while performing the investigation to see what I knew (some statements that I had made earlier suggested that I had known that the editor was a sock). It was the investigating administrator, not I, who forwarded the information to ArbCom, so I am unsure if ArbCom found the evidence conclusive enough, though I remember it being quite solid. Do you have a diff for when I said this though? I might have misphrased it; no checkuser has ever confided in me about allowing a banned editor to become an administrator. Some background on here - LaraLove was recently or is soon going to be desysopped for knowing about a merely desysopped editor (actually he might have been banned - i'm not sure and i don't care) who returned and became an administrator, so if you have evidence of this happening with someone else / arbcom being made aware and ignoring it, airing it out in public could help to expose some hypocrisy. This post has been edited by Random832:
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QUOTE(Random832 @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 9:44pm) QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 7:08pm) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 6:22pm) I will raise one point, however -- some months ago, NuclearWarfare (of all people) stated on his talk page that he was informed by "checkusers" that they were aware of "banned" editors who became admins. He used the plural -- editors and admins.
Multiple editors I am positive of; admins I know of one for sure. ArbCom has indeed been informed of who it is (three times, actually). I only know of it because another administrator consulted with me while performing the investigation to see what I knew (some statements that I had made earlier suggested that I had known that the editor was a sock). It was the investigating administrator, not I, who forwarded the information to ArbCom, so I am unsure if ArbCom found the evidence conclusive enough, though I remember it being quite solid. Do you have a diff for when I said this though? I might have misphrased it; no checkuser has ever confided in me about allowing a banned editor to become an administrator. Some background on here - LaraLove was recently or is soon going to be desysopped for knowing about a merely desysopped editor (actually he might have been banned - i'm not sure and i don't care) who returned and became an administrator, so if you have evidence of this happening with someone else / arbcom being made aware and ignoring it, airing it out in public could help to expose some hypocrisy. Check a couple posts up. I don't have much proof myself, but I know who does. I have told Lar, a checkuser whom I trust, the name of other party who knows the full details. Let's see where this goes.
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