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QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 13th November 2009, 4:49pm) Jeffrey writes an occasional column on ethics and religion in the local paper serving the Catholic University community. At least one of those columns was (perhaps still is) available online.
Yes, but what's local? A specific city in the UK? QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 14th November 2009, 12:13am) Early in his career, as he started out editing the A. Moreschi bio, user:Moreschi revealed his IP to be 86.131.110.151. That geolocates him to the UK. Where Folantin doubtless is, also. Just FYI.
Yes, Folantin geolocates to the University of Leeds, some sort of "linguistic laboratory". The only confirmed information about Moreschi is that he is a tennis pro located in the UK. QUOTE(Number Six @ Sat 14th November 2009, 1:11am) Where is the line between meat puppetry and "wiki-friends" with mutual philosophies and interests? I'm not trying to be snide - not here anyway - but I'm genuinely curious. Surely there is a difference, though it's often hard to tell.
The abuse level. If it doesn't lead to abuse, it's "wiki-friends". Here, we have a long history of abuse which is coordinated between two accounts, with Antandrus serving as an enabler account.---think Antandrus is the "mommy" who the kiddies run to when they're in trouble.... Clearly, part of the solution to this ARBCOM case involves solving this long history of coordinated abuse. One can only hope that ARBCOM will finally, years later, address this issue.
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sat 14th November 2009, 12:59am)
The abuse level.
If it doesn't lead to abuse, it's "wiki-friends". Here, we have a long history of abuse which is coordinated between two accounts, with Antandrus serving as an enabler account.---think Antandrus is the "mommy" who the kiddies run to when they're in trouble....
Clearly, part of the solution to this ARBCOM case involves solving this long history of coordinated abuse. One can only hope that ARBCOM will finally, years later, address this issue.
Food for thought. I cannot comment on the abuse aspect, maybe I need to read up more. I will say I've seen better work from Moreschi and Folantin than I ever have from Ottava Rima.
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QUOTE(Number Six @ Sat 14th November 2009, 2:30am) I've seen better work from Moreschi and Folantin than I ever have from Ottava Rima.
You've obviously never read the Grove dictionary of Music and Musicians. They just spend their time rewording that. Any elementary school student capable of a book report could do this kind of work. Folantin at least has slightly broader interests and is a bit more intelligent. Moreschi is simply incredibly stupid, close-minded about other perspectives and unbelievably rude. These two need to be put in their place here. OR is a real writer. And that's the problem right there. QUOTE(Number Six @ Sat 14th November 2009, 3:17am) QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sat 14th November 2009, 1:16am) However, Moreschi clearly is reading this locally in the UK.
He says. I simply can't see how the column I've seen would have been picked up here. He says indeed. AGF and all of that.
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Look at the recent history of the "workshop" page. Moreschi (T-C-L-K-R-D)
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They could be a little more subtle about it....And the tagteam pile-on continues on Moreschi's talk page.QUOTE Well, see that's the funny thing. I got a one-off email from what was probably a throwaway gmail account pointing me to it. The author claimed to be personally associated with you at the university, but that may just have been trolling. I hadn't actually bothered to google your real name, which your column is the second hit for: if you don't want people to read your enlightening thoughts on how " the soul's health supersedes care of body", I would use a different email address. Moreschi (talk) 10:22, 14 November 2009 (UTC) and then the other "evil twin" goes : QUOTE Yeah, I received a similar e-mail from someone operating under the mistaken assumption I give a monkey's who Ottava is in real life. I see Ottava has been conducting "research" into Folantin/Moreschi. He would have saved himself a lot of time looking through all those AfDs had he realised we were both founder members of WikiProject:Deletion with Elaragirl long, long ago. I plead guilty to the charge of depriving Wikipedia of pages on such vital subjects as The Wussy Boy Manifesto and Snifferanto. I haven't bothered with that project for ages because there are plenty of other people who can be relied on to take out the trash. Nowadays I'm more likely to save valuable articles from being zapped by overzealous new page patrollers, e.g. Vladimir Narbut (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vladimir Narbut - BTW that AFD got a brief mention in The New York Review of Books). I'm not sure what the point of your "research" is given most of the pages you are "analysing" are from way before you even appeared on Wikipedia. Maybe it was part of a proleptic cabal against you. --Folantin (talk) 11:09, 14 November 2009 (UTC) So, somebody tipped 'em off, eh?This is getting to be more interesting by the minute! On evidence page, OR takes the more elegant stance and s imply defends his actions, without hurling invective at anyone else. Moreschi and Folantin hysterically post accusations, without discussing the underlying conflicts. Who loses in this kind of situation? If ARBCOM were to go about this intelligently, they would look at the past history of all editors and see the underlying pattern of abuse on the part of Moreschi, Folantin et Cie... However, what they will probably do is only look at what is on the page and make the most simple decision, which is to exclude the one person who isn't pointing fingers, namely OR. I'm not saying that OR doesn't deserve some kind of chastisement for his actions. I'm only saying that Moreschi and Folantin are just as guilty, if not more so, and also need to be restricted for interacting with OR, and threatened with other sanctions if they do this type of tagteam operation again.
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QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sat 14th November 2009, 12:01pm) QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sat 14th November 2009, 7:31am) A lot of high-jinx by Moreschi and Folantin has by documented here by yours truly Perhaps a run-down of some of these incidents might be useful :
All of the fun that comes from using the term "hijinx" (or "hijinks") is derived from being about to use three dotted letters in a row. Sheesh. A fun word. I'll put it in my list of fun words. Bookkeeper Phlegm Hijinks Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz.
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 14th November 2009, 5:36pm) QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sat 14th November 2009, 12:01pm) QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sat 14th November 2009, 7:31am) A lot of high-jinx by Moreschi and Folantin has by documented here by yours truly Perhaps a run-down of some of these incidents might be useful :
All of the fun that comes from using the term "hijinx" (or "hijinks") is derived from being about to use three dotted letters in a row. Sheesh. A fun word. I'll put it in my list of fun words. Bookkeeper Phlegm Hijinks Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz. "nth" is great as it contains no vowels. "ixnay" is great for playing hangman or SCRABBLE®. (Is this thread sufficiently off-topic yet?)
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QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sat 14th November 2009, 5:12pm) (Is this thread sufficiently off-topic yet?) Well, like I posted earlier, if the whole point is to keep the words "Ottava leaves Wikipedia" on the WR homepage as long as possible, or at least long enough for it to stimulate the "pleasure centers" of everyones' brains, then it really doesn't matter what we talk about, as long as the thread title remains constant. So let me ask you all this, then: Is it really appropriate for a 50-year old in 2009 to go to a cocktail lounge and request that the 67-year-old entertainer play Perry Como songs? Or is that, like, "ageism"?
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QUOTE(Somey @ Sun 15th November 2009, 8:21am) let me ask you all this, then: Is it really appropriate for a 50-year old in 2009 to go to a cocktail lounge and request that the 67-year-old entertainer play Perry Como songs? Or is that, like, "ageism"?
Hey, it's trad, Dad! Hot diggeity!On a related note, it's looks as if OR is starting to put the pieces together.As I've said before, the only real solution here is to place editing restrictions on Moreschi and Folantin to avoid interactions with OR, and to forbid Moreschi to take any administrative action against him. ...and it might be nice if, for once, the Arbcom told these people that the rules apply to them too!
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Then there's this diff : QUOTE ===Thoughts from Moreschi===
Upon study of the logs from IRC, and upon review of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard/Archive_10#Romance_vs_Romantic_2], it seems that Ottava has a rather odd view of the humanities, and some bizarre views surrounding logic and opinions. Essentially, his position is that the fields of literature, history etc can be usefully described as sciences, with an established and orderly system of rules and minimal space for dissent from established norms. One might call this math envy, I suppose. It's a common problem in philosophy, the envy of the clarity and accuracy of pure mathematics: logical propositions true in any world.
But more accurately, Ottava seems to be suffering from "science envy". Now, while science contains enormous space for dissent, there are certain established norms which most people sign up to: the earth is however many billions of years old, Darwin was largely right about evolution, global warming is a problem, homeopathy is bunk, etc. These are backed by exhaustive research and evaulations of mathematical data. And Ottava thinks literature functions in a similar way. But it doesn't. There just isn't a literary set of norms, nor a historical set of norms, because the sources are ''personal'' and not ''statistical''. That Ottava can be so deeply educated and yet so completely mis-educated is somewhat depressing.
Regardless, this explains, I think, a great deal of Ottava's tendentiousness. In science, you see, someone has to be right! The scientists and the AIDS denialists can't both be right, nor can the homeopaths and the anti-homeopaths. But this doesn't apply to literature, or history, or indeed any other field of humanities. The problem we have is that the minute Ottava enters a dispute, he clams up to the possibility of compromise as if he were a scientist being confronted with a flat-earth theorist. Of course, his opponents rarely are flat-earth theorists, and sometimes ([[Persian Empire]], and what a screaming example of [[Wikipedia:Sword-skeleton theory]] that was) Ottava comes dangerously close to being the flat-earther himself.
These are clearly deeply ingrained views, and I don't think Ottava is likely to change them any more than he's going to abandon his radical Catholicism. That isn't helping either, by the way: the courage of conviction needed to hold such faith is deeply admirable, but when the courage of convictions is applied to other fields where compromise is needed, we then have a mindset unfit for collaborative editing. It is, of course, perfectly possible to separate religious faith from other parts of one's mindset, but Ottava doesn't.
Such, at any rate, is my analysis of the mindset that had led us to RFAR. [[User:Moreschi|Moreschi]] ([[User talk:Moreschi|talk]]) 16:58, 11 November 2009 (UTC) ....This looks to me as if it's crossed the line into personal attacks. It's on the Arbcom Workshop case, so the Arbs can't say that they didn't see it. The question is : in a project which tries to pretend that it is the "sum of all human knowledge", is there room for conflicting viewpoints? People are orthodox jews/muslems/catholics/protestants etc. There are enough of them that their viewpoint form part of "the sum of all human knowledge". How is labeling these belief systems as "radical" helping the process of writing an encyclopedia? And isn't this the core issue here?
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sun 15th November 2009, 7:37am) Then there's this diff : QUOTE ===Thoughts from Moreschi===
Upon study of the logs from IRC, and upon review of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard/Archive_10#Romance_vs_Romantic_2], it seems that Ottava has a rather odd view of the humanities, and some bizarre views surrounding logic and opinions. Essentially, his position is that the fields of literature, history etc can be usefully described as sciences, with an established and orderly system of rules and minimal space for dissent from established norms. One might call this math envy, I suppose. It's a common problem in philosophy, the envy of the clarity and accuracy of pure mathematics: logical propositions true in any world.
But more accurately, Ottava seems to be suffering from "science envy". Now, while science contains enormous space for dissent, there are certain established norms which most people sign up to: the earth is however many billions of years old, Darwin was largely right about evolution, global warming is a problem, homeopathy is bunk, etc. These are backed by exhaustive research and evaulations of mathematical data. And Ottava thinks literature functions in a similar way. But it doesn't. There just isn't a literary set of norms, nor a historical set of norms, because the sources are ''personal'' and not ''statistical''. That Ottava can be so deeply educated and yet so completely mis-educated is somewhat depressing.
Regardless, this explains, I think, a great deal of Ottava's tendentiousness. In science, you see, someone has to be right! The scientists and the AIDS denialists can't both be right, nor can the homeopaths and the anti-homeopaths. But this doesn't apply to literature, or history, or indeed any other field of humanities. The problem we have is that the minute Ottava enters a dispute, he clams up to the possibility of compromise as if he were a scientist being confronted with a flat-earth theorist. Of course, his opponents rarely are flat-earth theorists, and sometimes ([[Persian Empire]], and what a screaming example of [[Wikipedia:Sword-skeleton theory]] that was) Ottava comes dangerously close to being the flat-earther himself.
These are clearly deeply ingrained views, and I don't think Ottava is likely to change them any more than he's going to abandon his radical Catholicism. That isn't helping either, by the way: the courage of conviction needed to hold such faith is deeply admirable, but when the courage of convictions is applied to other fields where compromise is needed, we then have a mindset unfit for collaborative editing. It is, of course, perfectly possible to separate religious faith from other parts of one's mindset, but Ottava doesn't.
Such, at any rate, is my analysis of the mindset that had led us to RFAR. [[User:Moreschi|Moreschi]] ([[User talk:Moreschi|talk]]) 16:58, 11 November 2009 (UTC) ....This looks to me as if it's crossed the line into personal attacks. It's on the Arbcom Workshop case, so the Arbs can't say that they didn't see it. The question is : in a project which tries to pretend that it is the "sum of all human knowledge", is there room for conflicting viewpoints? People are orthodox jews/muslems/catholics/protestants etc. There are enough of them that their viewpoint form part of "the sum of all human knowledge". How is labeling these belief systems as "radical" helping the process of writing an encyclopedia? And isn't this the core issue here? I think the comparison to the world religions is not helpful to understanding what "Moreschi" is getting at. A better comparison would be with Marxism-Leninism which purports to being "scientific." This notion that one's views on political and social matters have scientific underpinning is highly seductive and can lead to great intolerance to other views. In the case of Marxism-Leninism this can cause people who set out as humanists pursuing sympathetic ends to adopt tolalitarian means. "Moreschi" is saying that OR has characteristics similar to these in his pursuit of covering the humanities on WP. It is this belief in the "science" of his views that makes OR radical. An appropriate encyclopedic approach to the world religions is to catalog the beliefs practices variations viewed from inside each of the various thought systems, not figure out which one is right of better.
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