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Bring back the guttersnipes! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 3,270 Joined: From: EN61bw Member No.: 6,696 ![]() |
Ran across this image recently. This fine work was executed to illustrate the article on smocking. The problem with this is that the work presented of absolutely horrific quality; if this were my work I would be tempted to burn it and under no circumstance would I let anyone see it. I'm sure that a five year old could do better than this.
Of course, one look at who created this travesty of textile arts and you'll understand why this is on Wikipedia. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/sick.gif) |
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Can't actually moderate (or even post) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 11,816 Joined: From: Dreamland Member No.: 275 ![]() |
I hate to play Devil's Advocate here, but if the point is to show how the fabric is gathered, does the quality of the stitching itself really matter? One might even argue that high-quality stitching might distract the reader/viewer from the fabric-gathering effect. Besides, the world has spandex and lycra now - does anybody even need this technique, other than to make period costumes for Renaissance Festivals? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif)
I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that the Smocking (T-H-L-K-D) article is about equal in length to the Textile industry (T-H-L-K-D) article, and actually has better sourcing - though admittedly the latter has an offshoot, Textile manufacture during the Industrial Revolution (T-H-L-K-D) that's also about the same length. |
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Fortunately Denmark palmed Norway off to Sweden in 1814 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Inactive Posts: 321 Joined: Member No.: 15,636 ![]() |
Besides, the world has spandex and lycra now Er - no. It has elastane. This is also known as spandex especially in the USA but according to the BBC spandex is actually a brand name. Lycra is the brand name for spandex used by Du Pont. http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A676262 http://www.madehow.com/Volume-4/Spandex.html |
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the Dude abides ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 1,441 Joined: Member No.: 2,143 ![]() |
Besides, the world has spandex and lycra now Er - no. It has elastane. This is also known as spandex especially in the USA but according to the BBC spandex is actually a brand name. Lycra is the brand name for spandex used by Du Pont. http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A676262 http://www.madehow.com/Volume-4/Spandex.html |
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Fortunately Denmark palmed Norway off to Sweden in 1814 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Inactive Posts: 321 Joined: Member No.: 15,636 ![]() |
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Skinny Cow! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 2,514 Joined: From: Kalifornia Member No.: 1,806 ![]() |
Why don't you just bop on over there and fix it? You do have an account still ... right? |
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the Dude abides ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 1,441 Joined: Member No.: 2,143 ![]() |
Why don't you just bop on over there and fix it? You do have an account still ... right? The revision history of Spandex fetishism on wipipedia featuring Ropeuser and Vicky. Eric starts the Whale tail WR thread on Feb 12. Ropeuser starts the wipipedia Whale tail article on Feb 13. |
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Skinny Cow! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 2,514 Joined: From: Kalifornia Member No.: 1,806 ![]() |
That name 'Vicky' sounds awfully familiar. Where could I have heard of it before ..... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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the Dude abides ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 1,441 Joined: Member No.: 2,143 ![]() |
That name 'Vicky' sounds awfully familiar. Where could I have heard of it before ..... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif) http://www.londonfetishscene.com/wipi/inde...&year=&month=-1 10:42, 18 September 2008 Balzac (Talk | contribs) has renamed User:Taxwoman to "Vicky" ‎ (1,661 edits. Reason: request of user) |
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Wow, it's amazing that this thread went on for several days and started over a brief mention at my user page.
The reason for avoiding Flickr for this topic is quite simple: original creative designs in the craft arts are copyrightable. Many people don't know that; also many people don't understand what a derivative work is. The safest way to avoid copyright infringements in crafted items is to upload one's own original designs. |
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The safest way to avoid copyright infringements in crafted items is to upload one's own original designs. You're basically just laughing at the rest of us at this point, aren't you? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif) Personally, I think it's a lovely design. In fact, I'm thinking of having my entire house redone around that basic motif, and possibly the landscaping too...! It would be a lot more practical than my current place, I'll tell ya that. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Contributors Posts: 171 Joined: From: Honey catches more flies than vinegar, but I still don't want to see your fly. Member No.: 14,351 ![]() |
The safest way to avoid copyright infringements in crafted items is to upload one's own original designs. You're basically just laughing at the rest of us at this point, aren't you? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif) Personally, I think it's a lovely design. In fact, I'm thinking of having my entire house redone around that basic motif, and possibly the landscaping too...! It would be a lot more practical than my current place, I'll tell ya that. Actually that's a straightforward explanation, Somey. If you rummage around the old archives of my blog you'll see that the reason behind it has something to do with the mom-and-pop nature of the craft art business. Imports have risen to the North American market, a substantial portion of which are knockoffs of craft designs. A couple of years ago I wrote a GA about Navajo rugs, part of which mentioned that factor. It simply isn't possible to live in North America on the kind of wages that prevail in Thailand or China. So when Wikimedians upload their own original designs, it's less about the quality of the material than about respecting intellectual property rights. With regard to the smocking example that started this thread, it was useful in the article to show examples of the major stitches. |
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CT (Check Troll) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 801 Joined: Member No.: 194 ![]() |
With regard to the smocking example that started this thread, it was useful in the article to show examples of the major stitches. hmmm, not really. That name 'Vicky' sounds awfully familiar. Where could I have heard of it before ..... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif) http://www.londonfetishscene.com/wipi/inde...&year=&month=-110:42, 18 September 2008 Balzac (Talk | contribs) has renamed User:Taxwoman to "Vicky" ‎ (1,661 edits. Reason: request of user) (IMG:http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq142/firepixie26/busted.jpg) Give it up, Baxter. You're done. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) Obvious sock is obvious His fakeness was established back in Desember, with this post. (Hint: the Danish is completely wrong. No Dane would write: "Jeg er godt".... But use an automatic translator on "I am fine"..and you wil get it) (Eric: nice lolcat (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif) ) |
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Fortunately Denmark palmed Norway off to Sweden in 1814 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Inactive Posts: 321 Joined: Member No.: 15,636 ![]() |
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CT (Check Troll) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 801 Joined: Member No.: 194 ![]() |
(Hint: the Danish is completely wrong. No Dane would write: "Jeg er godt".... But use an automatic translator on "I am fine"..and you wil get it) This is from someone who can't spell "will" but claims to speak English. Silly man. I only claim to speak broken English perfectly.... but you claimed to be Danish... |
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Fortunately Denmark palmed Norway off to Sweden in 1814 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Inactive Posts: 321 Joined: Member No.: 15,636 ![]() |
Silly man. I only claim to speak broken English perfectly.... but you claimed to be Danish... Yes I am proud to speak Danish correctly. Evidently you have found a translator that follows the correct rules of Danish grammar not the sort of vulgar patois that Danes of your acquaintance evidently speak. I am now putting you on ignore. Good night. |
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Skinny Cow! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 2,514 Joined: From: Kalifornia Member No.: 1,806 ![]() |
Silly man. I only claim to speak broken English perfectly.... but you claimed to be Danish... Yes I am proud to speak Danish correctly. Evidently you have found a translator that follows the correct rules of Danish grammar not the sort of vulgar patois that Danes of your acquaintance evidently speak. I am now putting you on ignore. Good night. ... and it's time to find a new sock on WP, 'Giselle' (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/angry.gif) |
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Fortunately Denmark palmed Norway off to Sweden in 1814 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Inactive Posts: 321 Joined: Member No.: 15,636 ![]() |
I am now putting you on ignore. Good night. ... and it's time to find a new sock on WP, 'Giselle' (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/angry.gif) You too. And you're someone who really ought to know better. I won't deign to ask who 'Giselle' is. This post has been edited by Trick cyclist: |
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I am now putting you on ignore. Good night. ... and it's time to find a new sock on WP, 'Giselle' (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/angry.gif) You too. And you're someone who really ought to know better. I won't deign to ask who 'Giselle' is. I love it when you can watch the sock unravel before your eyes. |
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Can't actually moderate (or even post) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 11,816 Joined: From: Dreamland Member No.: 275 ![]() |
I love it when you can watch the sock unravel before your eyes. Well, I feel really bad now, since it was apparently my own mention of "spandex and lycra" that initiated this whole series of posts, and now he's going to have to start a whole new account! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif) Still, I thought he nearly had it this time - true, I'd figured it out after about 8 posts and I even told a bunch of folks, but a lot of them didn't believe me at first - because he'd been so well-behaved and clever about avoiding the usual pitfalls. Even when I insisted, everybody seemed willing to go along with letting him continue with it, as a kind of observational experiment... Only to have the whole thing ruined by me, of all people. (I'd better just steer clear of all-natural fibers of all kinds, from now on.) Maybe I can blame Durova, though? Heck, she'd probably appreciate the additional notch-in-the-fuselage. |
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I love it when you can watch the sock unravel before your eyes. Well, I feel really bad now, since it was apparently my own mention of "spandex and lycra" that initiated this whole series of posts, and now he's going to have to start a whole new account! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif) |
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