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After User:Erik added a picture to Don Murphy, the following note appeared on his talk page: QUOTE Don Murphy Photo Dear Erik
Cropping a photo does not make it a derivative work. You do not have the copyright to that photo you inserted. You can avoid personal litigation by removing it within 48 hours. The Foundation cannot avoid it. Thank you. SharkJumper 15:44, 23 April 2010 (UTC) Enjoy WP while you still can! Never mind - Apocalypse cancelled.
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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Mon 26th April 2010, 12:01am) QUOTE(ColScott @ Sun 25th April 2010, 4:45pm) I don't think he spends a lot of time researching movies based on comic-book heros, and stuffing the results into Wikipedia in the form of many thousands of edits over the last three years. Well perhaps Mr Kraft likes to keep his obsessions in different compartments. There is nothing in his CV about films or videos, but this http://vimeo.com/user929513is an account he maintains about his interest in video, and here http://fallingandlaughing.comis a whole website devoted to his musings about film and literature and poetry and so on. If you doubt this, click on the box 'Author' where there is birthdate, name and link to 'Restless Bee'. The site reveals an obsessive interest in the films of Werner Herzog (which user:Erik has also edited about). Also an obsessive interest in Wikipedia. "For some weeks now, I have been obsessed with the wikipedia entry on “In the Air Tonightâ€, a well-known composition by Sir Philip Collins. There is much to treasure in this article ... sometimes the only way you can exorcise your obsession with a wikipedia article is to add an apocryphal critical quotation to it. And behold the edits http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...ns/24.11.231.53 (from a Chicago comcast IP - Kraft is a Comcast customer http://fallingandlaughing.com/post/1797520...e-in-miserable). I don't know why he should use an IP and not the user:Erik account. Perhaps because, as I say, he likes to keep his obsessions in different compartments. Why after all did Kraft tell Murphy that he hadn't edited Wikipedia in three years, when he clearly has edited as recently as November last year (2009)? This post has been edited by Peter Damian:
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Mon 26th April 2010, 8:39am) The site reveals an obsessive interest in the films of Werner Herzog (which user:Erik has also edited about). Also an obsessive interest in Wikipedia. "For some weeks now, I have been obsessed with the wikipedia entry on “In the Air Tonightâ€, a well-known composition by Sir Philip Collins. There is much to treasure in this article ... sometimes the only way you can exorcise your obsession with a wikipedia article is to add an apocryphal critical quotation to it. And behold the edits http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...ns/24.11.231.53 (from a Chicago comcast IP - Kraft is a Comcast customer http://fallingandlaughing.com/post/1797520...e-in-miserable). I don't know why he should use an IP and not the user:Erik account. Perhaps because, as I say, he likes to keep his obsessions in different compartments. Why after all did Kraft tell Murphy that he hadn't edited Wikipedia in three years, when he clearly has edited as recently as November last year (2009)? This thread finally got annoying enough for me to look at User:Erik. It took me about 10 minutes to figure out the real name of this person and confirm that they are not Erik Kraft. I cannot explain why they chose to add it to their userpage in the midst of the dispute, but they do appear to have attended Indiana Illinois University, so their intention was not to frame Erik Kraft. Peter Damian, you are quite obviously grasping at straws. Most of your evidence is merely coincidence. I don't think it matters to Murphy so long as he has someone to focus his anger on. [I originally wrote Indiana University, but meant Illinois University. Sorry for the confusion that may have caused. - carbuncle]This post has been edited by carbuncle:
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 26th April 2010, 1:22pm) This thread finally got annoying enough for me to look at User:Erik. It took me about 10 minutes to figure out the real name of this person and confirm that they are not Erik Kraft. I cannot explain why they chose to add it to their userpage in the midst of the dispute, but they do appear to have attended Indiana University, so their intention was not to frame Erik Kraft. Peter Damian, you are quite obviously grasping at straws. Most of your evidence is merely coincidence. I don't think it matters to Murphy so long as he has someone to focus his anger on. Well if they are not shouldn't someone make that clear? I am too stupid to find the evidence that they are not the same. And I cannot understand the odd coincidences. Particularly the coincidence that Erik Kraft manages to locate the epicentre of the dispute within minutes of hearing about it from Don Murphy, and without being told Murphy's surname. The thing only matters to me a puzzle. You know, I like detective stories, mysteries, all that kind of stuff. If there is absolute and irrefrageable proof that they are not identical, then we have to write off all the other stuff as mere difficult-to-explain coincidence. Otherwise not. I too find it hard to explain the difference in content and interest between Kraft, and user:Erik. This post has been edited by Peter Damian:
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Mon 26th April 2010, 12:35pm) Well if they are not shouldn't someone make that clear? I am too stupid to find the evidence that they are not the same. And I cannot understand the odd coincidences. Particularly the coincidence that Erik Kraft manages to locate the epicentre of the dispute within minutes of hearing about it from Don Murphy, and without being told Murphy's surname.
The thing only matters to me a puzzle. You know, I like detective stories, mysteries, all that kind of stuff. If there is absolute and irrefrageable proof that they are not identical, then we have to write off all the other stuff as mere difficult-to-explain coincidence. Otherwise not.
I too find it hard to explain the difference in content and interest between Kraft, and user:Erik.
I'm sure it's not stupidity that has prevented you from finding user:Erik's name. I cannot explain the actions of Erik Kraft, but I don't particularly feel the need to try, since I am certain that the person Murphy spoke to is not the same person as user:Erik. It's completely up to you whether or not you believe me, but I am not attempting to mislead you or Murphy here, just stating what I believe to be true.
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 26th April 2010, 5:55am) QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Mon 26th April 2010, 12:35pm) Well if they are not shouldn't someone make that clear? I am too stupid to find the evidence that they are not the same. And I cannot understand the odd coincidences. Particularly the coincidence that Erik Kraft manages to locate the epicentre of the dispute within minutes of hearing about it from Don Murphy, and without being told Murphy's surname.
The thing only matters to me a puzzle. You know, I like detective stories, mysteries, all that kind of stuff. If there is absolute and irrefrageable proof that they are not identical, then we have to write off all the other stuff as mere difficult-to-explain coincidence. Otherwise not.
I too find it hard to explain the difference in content and interest between Kraft, and user:Erik.
I'm sure it's not stupidity that has prevented you from finding user:Erik's name. I cannot explain the actions of Erik Kraft, but I don't particularly feel the need to try, since I am certain that the person Murphy spoke to is not the same person as user:Erik. It's completely up to you whether or not you believe me, but I am not attempting to mislead you or Murphy here, just stating what I believe to be true. Well here is the thing- all you cultists screamed and cried that an "innocent" was being harassed. Now if Kraft is the wrong guy he is going to have some hefty legal defense bills. Or you could PM me the right guy with back up information and then only the right guy gets the summons. IF you know, and I doubt it, then share. I won't name you. But prove it or stfu.
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 26th April 2010, 7:20am) QUOTE(ColScott @ Mon 26th April 2010, 2:13pm) Well here is the thing- all you cultists screamed and cried that an "innocent" was being harassed. Now if Kraft is the wrong guy he is going to have some hefty legal defense bills. Or you could PM me the right guy with back up information and then only the right guy gets the summons. IF you know, and I doubt it, then share. I won't name you. But prove it or stfu.
You don't really think I'm going to help you harass someone, do you? And you don't think that I believe you're launching any kind of legal action against Erik Kraft, do you? I have never harassed a person in my life. I hope you aren't falsely accusing me of a crime. That in and of itself is actionable. I didn't expect you to tell me, because you made it up. I don't believe Erik Kraft is innocent. He's a cultist and a liar. Let God sort you all out!
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