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Everyone knows that Abigor has been majorly wheel warring over images, closing "undeletion" requests in less than 2 hours in order to stifle any discussion, and even blocked me for pointing out that while he claimed he was undeleting only "breast feeding" or "art" images, that he was really undeleting hard core pornography. However, he has gone even further in intimidation: 1. Edit warring on a user talk page when the user has the right to remove content, especially when they leave:[http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ottava_Rima&action=history Mine] and Guido's. Note, vvv and Abigor were overturned as acting completely inappropriately and not within policy, but Abigor felt like removing my comments to make it seem one sided. This is classic abuse and bullying. 2. Trying to desysop Tiptoety for using his power appropriately: as you can see here. 3. Then, when it seemed like he would finally be removed in order to stop his consistent bullying and abuse of every single policy we have and his horrible amount of intimidation, he backs down. 4. Then seeks more revenge against Jimbo to taunt him: 1 and 2. So, he abused his ops very blatantly on IRC, cussed out people calling them a "fucking idiot", and has been rampaging over multiple pages. Everyone knows he has been abusive on multiple accounts and deceptive, so why is he not yet banned? If Jimbo wants to prove he really has what is best in mind for the project, it is rather simple what the answer here is: ban Abigor, remove any trace of him, and if anyone dared to abuse their power like that again to make sure they are completely removed. Abigor has shown that anarchists are able to take over and destroy everything in their path. He is doing a more to harm Wikipedia than anything Greg Kohs has ever managed, and I am sure Kohs is sitting there watching with a huge smile on his face. By the way, what would the media think if they find out that a single admin has defied the WMF authority, blocked, threatened, cussed out, and gone to great lengths to intimidate anyone who dares to remove pornography that is clearly out of scope and has no reason to be on Commons? For our reputation alone that guy needs to be shown the door and erased from history. This post has been edited by Ottava:
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 9th May 2010, 5:26pm) QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 11:13am) QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sun 9th May 2010, 3:10pm) QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 1:19pm) For our reputation alone that guy needs to be shown the door and erased from history.
Perhaps Adam Cuerden can help you edit him out of all the photographs where he appears with Jimbo. Adam's behavior was disgraceful and anything short of desysopping and a 6 month ban would be unacceptable. This thread had potential, but should probably be annexed at this point (except maybe Guido's comment). Annexing would make it invisible to outsiders. Effectively, you would be removing any criticism and exposure of clear abuse, things that the media, for instance, would be interested to read about.
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Sun 9th May 2010, 12:44pm) Yup, annex or delete; the purpose of Wikipedia Review is absolutely not to facilitate Ottava's personal need for vengeance.
Done! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) Is the Annex not visible to the public? It should be - I'll go check and see what the deal is. (Two minutes later) It's visible to the public, but not to Google and other popular search engines. Interesting problem, actually... I suppose we must have decided that deliberately, but I don't remember the specific discussion. (There's a Mods-only thread on it but not much in it about Google, and a few other posts scattered in various places, but nothing conclusive.) Maybe I was distracted with "real life" that week (like I am this week)...? IMO we should probably discuss it in a bit more detail somewhere. I'd be inclined to make it visible to Google, but I could see why some folks would disagree.
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QUOTE(Somey @ Sun 9th May 2010, 5:55pm) QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Sun 9th May 2010, 12:44pm) Yup, annex or delete; the purpose of Wikipedia Review is absolutely not to facilitate Ottava's personal need for vengeance.
Done! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) Is the Annex not visible to the public? It should be - I'll go check and see what the deal is. (Two minutes later) It's visible to the public, but not to Google and other popular search engines. Interesting problem, actually... I suppose we must have decided that deliberately, but I don't remember the specific discussion. (There's a Mods-only thread on it but not much in it about Google, and a few other posts scattered in various places, but nothing conclusive.) Maybe I was distracted with "real life" that week (like I am this week)...? IMO we should probably discuss it in a bit more detail somewhere. I'd be inclined to make it visible to Google, but I could see why some folks would disagree. People without accounts linked to annex threads can't see them, so, that is why I said it wasn't public.
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 1:14pm) People without accounts linked to annex threads can't see them... Huh? I just logged out, and there it all was in its full glory and splendor. Maybe you're using the word "linked" when you meant to use a different phrase, such as "with internet ISP's who are told vague rumors about things relating"...? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) Bearing in mind, of course, that I personally believe Abigor (T-C-L-K-R-D)
to be a menace to all things proper and decent, and that he should therefore be severely chastised.
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QUOTE(Somey @ Sun 9th May 2010, 6:32pm) QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 1:14pm) People without accounts linked to annex threads can't see them... Huh? I just logged out, and there it all was in its full glory and splendor. Maybe you're using the word "linked" when you meant to use a different phrase, such as "with internet ISP's who are told vague rumors about things relating"...? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) Bearing in mind, of course, that I personally believe Abigor (T-C-L-K-R-D)
to be a menace to all things proper and decent, and that he should therefore be severely chastised. Well, I had someone check today and it was visible for them. I'm not really sure what the deal was - the last time I tried was the Giano/Bishonen thread and people weren't able to see that on the first day after it was in the Annex. I'm not going to begin to ponder what was going on and I'll just be happy that people can see it now.
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 1:42pm) I'm not really sure what the deal was - the last time I tried was the Giano/Bishonen thread and people weren't able to see that on the first day after it was in the Annex. I'm not going to begin to ponder what was going on and I'll just be happy that people can see it now. Oh wait, maybe that was the "Annex Tar Pit"...? That one's not visible to the public, but there weren't many threads in it last time I checked. Getting back to this Abigor person, do you have some good examples of Awfully Abusive Admin Actions (4A) that don't involve you in any way whatsoever? I figure we can ignore the image-tagging warnings on Jimbo's talk page, but you mentioned Tiptoety (T-C-L-K-R-D)
, who apparently was trying to remove ("oversight") some porno images so that even admins couldn't see them, causing Abigor to object in rather officious terms. Is Abigor one of those, you know, porn guys? Or does he just not like Tiptoety for some reason?
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QUOTE(Somey @ Sun 9th May 2010, 7:10pm) QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 1:42pm) I'm not really sure what the deal was - the last time I tried was the Giano/Bishonen thread and people weren't able to see that on the first day after it was in the Annex. I'm not going to begin to ponder what was going on and I'll just be happy that people can see it now. Oh wait, maybe that was the "Annex Tar Pit"...? That one's not visible to the public, but there weren't many threads in it last time I checked. Getting back to this Abigor person, do you have some good examples of Awfully Abusive Admin Actions (4A) that don't involve you in any way whatsoever? I figure we can ignore the image-tagging warnings on Jimbo's talk page, but you mentioned Tiptoety (T-C-L-K-R-D)
, who apparently was trying to remove ("oversight") some porno images so that even admins couldn't see them, causing Abigor to object in rather officious terms. Is Abigor one of those, you know, porn guys? Or does he just not like Tiptoety for some reason? He wheel warred against Jimbo while claiming he was only undeleting breast feeding or art images. The images were clearly women masturbating. Lying about your undeletions and closing undeletion pages after less than two hours and with one vote is highly inappropriate. There was also the abusive treatment of Guido and edit warring on his talk page. Just check Abigor's contribs, there is quite a lot in 24 hours. He took his anger out on everyone he could find.
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 7:16pm) QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 9th May 2010, 11:13pm) QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 6:44pm) He wheel warred against Jimbo <...blah, blah, blah,...>
Ya know, if you stopped implying that not doing Jimbo's will is inherently a bad thing, people might actually read your posts. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) Clearing out a bunch of porn is something that Jimbo did right. He knew that Wikipedia was being mocked and looked down on over it and he took appropriate action. The trolls who put it up in the first place need to be shown the door. And there's that in and out the ears trick again! Amazing! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/applause.gif)
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 9th May 2010, 11:29pm) QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 7:16pm) QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 9th May 2010, 11:13pm) QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 6:44pm) He wheel warred against Jimbo <...blah, blah, blah,...>
Ya know, if you stopped implying that not doing Jimbo's will is inherently a bad thing, people might actually read your posts. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) Clearing out a bunch of porn is something that Jimbo did right. He knew that Wikipedia was being mocked and looked down on over it and he took appropriate action. The trolls who put it up in the first place need to be shown the door. And there's that in and out the ears trick again! Amazing! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/applause.gif) I judge the individual action, not the person who may have a history of fucking up. A broken clock is right twice a day, so, if you continue to say it is wrong then you will be wrong every once in a while.
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 7:30pm) QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 9th May 2010, 11:29pm) QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 7:16pm) QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 9th May 2010, 11:13pm) QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 6:44pm) He wheel warred against Jimbo <...blah, blah, blah,...>
Ya know, if you stopped implying that not doing Jimbo's will is inherently a bad thing, people might actually read your posts. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) Clearing out a bunch of porn is something that Jimbo did right. He knew that Wikipedia was being mocked and looked down on over it and he took appropriate action. The trolls who put it up in the first place need to be shown the door. And there's that in and out the ears trick again! Amazing! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/applause.gif) I judge the individual action, not the person who may have a history of fucking up. A broken clock is right twice a day, so, if you continue to say it is wrong then you will be wrong every once in a while. I didn't actually say you were "wrong", I was just giving you a friendly heads up on why people around here add you to their ignore list (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif). Despite the obvious similarities (e.g., spending years covering up for pedophiles and/or making life easier for pedophiles in order to "keep a good public face"), Jimbo is not the pope. You really don't have any duty to kiss his ring and preach his message on command, you know, much less any likelihood of a reward in the after-wiki-life. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 9th May 2010, 7:19pm) QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 7:30pm) QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 9th May 2010, 11:29pm) QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 7:16pm) QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 9th May 2010, 11:13pm) QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 9th May 2010, 6:44pm) He wheel warred against Jimbo <...blah, blah, blah,...>
Ya know, if you stopped implying that not doing Jimbo's will is inherently a bad thing, people might actually read your posts. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) Clearing out a bunch of porn is something that Jimbo did right. He knew that Wikipedia was being mocked and looked down on over it and he took appropriate action. The trolls who put it up in the first place need to be shown the door. And there's that in and out the ears trick again! Amazing! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/applause.gif) I judge the individual action, not the person who may have a history of fucking up. A broken clock is right twice a day, so, if you continue to say it is wrong then you will be wrong every once in a while. I didn't actually say you were "wrong", I was just giving you a friendly heads up on why people around here add you to their ignore list (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif). Despite the obvious similarities (e.g., spending years covering up for pedophiles and/or making life easier for pedophiles in order to "keep a good public face"), Jimbo is not the pope. You really don't have any duty to kiss his ring and preach his message on command, you know, much less any likelihood of a reward in the after-wiki-life. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif) While there are a lot of legitimate reasons to blame for Ottava being such an idiot his religion is not one of them.
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