QUOTE(Guido den Broeder @ Wed 12th May 2010, 7:22am)
Guess what. My unblock request was promptly deleted from history. Then fortunately restored by DerHexer.
What's going on here?
Guido meta contributions Guido den Broeder block logGuido user talk page historyDerHexer is steward, oversight, and sysop on meta. Who deleted the revisions? It looks like it was DerHexer who removed "libelous information."
This is what DerHexer restored:
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Request reason: "It doesn't seem proper to repeatedly damage a page and then block and threaten a user, or have a buddy do that, who repairs that damage, while declining to discuss the matter. Please note that Public speakers is a living-persons page, not a club of wiki users.
The first thing that Herbythyme did when he got his tool backs was to annoy Gregory Kohs, a competitor banned by mr. Wales, by deleting his entry on the Public speakers page and removing real-life info from his user page. Abigor, otherwise known for wheelwarring on Commons to [removed libellous information], is all over the WMF bothering the same person.
In addition to the unblock, I ask for a CU on the new user Choosan who vandalized my user space during this episode. I find it strange that this was their first action on meta and also that they were not even spoken to, so it is likely someone's second account with others knowing whose. Both Abigor and Fram, an administrator from en:Wikipedia who previously damaged the Public speakers page, have a history of such actions."
Guido makes the situation more politically difficult by pushing the point. But, of course, he's right. Abigor shouldn't be touching him with blocks, and herbythyme was revert warring with him and threatening to block. But meta doesn't seem to have such clear recusal policy, or does it?
Guido, you got it wrong. It's not "fortunate" that DerHexer found it necessary to remove "libelous information." What he left behind was bad enough.
You've said you don't want to play the "Wikipedia game," but you are playing it. Playing it badly.
I restored Kohs as speaker, the excuse for this whole affair, and it still sticks, so far, fingers crossed. I didn't have to revert war, and I wouldn't revert war. I'll escalate if needed. Accusing others of misbehavior is generally a serious political error. Describe what you must to inform others of a situation, but let them make the judgments. You brought in irrelevant misbehavior (i.e., actions on another wiki that weren't related to the immediate situation.)
It's hard enough to get through if you don't make accusations! -- because if you provide diffs that someone was, say, revert warring, or blocking you when engaged in a revert war with you, some will assume that this is an accusation anyway.... and react to you as if you are a raving lunatic. It's better, if possible, to let others defend you, even if it takes time.