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"The other song was about adult love – I haven't experienced that yet," racey 13 year old Rebecca Black is quoted as saying for the reason she chose the song "Friday", scoring a phenomenal 44 references, and a longer topic page than Alessandro Scarlatti (no references naturally), apparently being notable for the Youtube song with the most mocking comments or something. In fact, she score more highly than ALL the Scarlattis put together (... one reference).
And for the rest of time, Rebecca will be recorded by the ordure that is Jimmy Wales onanistic organ as being "worst song ever", "bizarre," "inept," "hilariously dreadful" and "YouTube laughing stock." Of course, its not a BLP laying the boot into a 13 year old girl ... it's a topic about a "notable" song, even though Black is reported as saying that "those hurtful comments really shocked her" and that she was brought to tears by comments such as "I hope you go cut [yourself] and die" or "'I hope you cut yourself, and I hope you'll get an eating disorder so you'll look pretty"; so the Wikipedia insists on telling me. But never mind, the Wikipedia also considers it notable enough that she soon was able to ignore such comments and ask Justin Bieber (who I have no clue who he is) to do a duet ... except he has not replied yet, or perhaps he does not even know because he management team dont follow Facebook or something. Amazingly, all this eternal notability happened in the last 10 days ... that is all it take these days to get your own Wiki-page these days ... created by someone's obvious sleeper sock "Captaincapitalism". Surely not worthy of deletion? Boy, I just cannot wait until for the loss of virginity and ensuing decline into substance abuse happens, and are all added to the article ... shouldn't someone tell her parents where to send the lawyer's letter? QUOTE Delete I understand that I am likely in the minority here, but I think keeping an article that is a series of criticisms regarding a child simply because it can be sourced is completely unnecessary. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 19:44, 16 March 2011 (UTC) QUOTE The result was speedy keep. I am pretty sure that WP:SNOW really applies here so I think it is best to close this now. (non-admin closure) Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:37, 17 March 2011 (UTC) And, for the record, or as we say these days "for the downloadable mp3" I think it is a wonderful take on perfect plastic pop that could not have been cynically created better and Becky deserves all the success in the world. Especially when the song is covered by Bob Dylan. See Youtube for other numerous perfectly acceptable parodies. QUOTE Keep I'm very supportive of avoiding BLP violations, especially when it's a 13-year-old, but I don't see any here. Negative unsourced additions have been repeatedly reverted, and what's left seems well sourced and accurately reflects the sources - in fact, every single statement is sourced. Sources include Time, Rolling Stone, Entertainment Weekly, New York Daily Times, Forbes. (Please also note there is also a deletion review of a related article happening at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2011 March 14#Rebecca Black) -- Oh, and I strongly disagree with "any other non-notable person could have replaced her and the song would have received the same attention" - it's the fact that she's such a bad singer that even auto-tune can't save it that has made it such a hit. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:31, 16 March 2011 (UTC) This post has been edited by Cock-up-over-conspiracy: |
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How about the fact that it has now charted in four different countries?
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How about the fact that it has now charted in four different countries? Charted in what? I am sorry, I have no idea what value commercial pop chart have these days. In my days, anything that made it into the charts was pretty much guaranteed to be shit. Bear in mind, it certainly had not when it was first written. What you are saying then is that the wikipaedia is really just popularist entertainment. Personally, I am not against a topic as long as it is respectful of the individual given their age etc, and as modest as the contribution to civilization she and it is making. My point has always been about the imbalance between it and something that is of importance. Perhaps in 20 years we will be able to look back and realise that Rebecca Black was the Johnny Rotten of her generation and Clarence Jey and Patrice Wilson her Malcolm Mclaren and Vivienne Westwood. I don't think so but I have been wrong before. Not as it happens. Surely, she is just one line in a topic about flash in the pan Web 2.0 notoriety? I fully demand a page on Baby Laughing Hysterically at Ripping Paper (Original) ... 13,000,000 view on Youtube ...!!! It is the new internet sensation!!! Surely that is notable, I have reliable citations about it too! What makes the rules differ in two such cases ... am I suppose to like them young but not that young? This post has been edited by Cock-up-over-conspiracy: |
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I fully expect a page on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP4abiHdQpc]Baby Laughing Hysterically at Ripping Paper (Original)[/url] ... 13,000,000 view on Youtube ...!!! It is the new internet sensation!!! Surely that is notable? What makes the rules differ in two such cases? I have reliable citations about it. It only has 13 million views and no parodies. Rebecca Black has about 50 million views and nearly as many parodies. I think parodies is the answer. The "Bed Intruder Song" was a parody off that ridiculous interview about a rape attempt last year. And that has an article. |
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Rebecca Black has about 50 million views and nearly as many parodies. I think parodies is the answer. 13 million views and no parodies ... yet. I predict a spate of parents uploading their Laughing Gnomes. David Bowie, the Man Who Tried to Sell Out to the World ... Parodies ... so is there a benchmark of how many parodies a ditty requires to become notable enough? I must admit, I am starting to accept "going viral on Youtube" probably is this generations' punk moment. Moderated ... Until then the only answer I can give to the latest questions by "Cock-up-over-conspiracy" is "Mu". The last person to do that was Garrett Fitzgerald, aka SarekofVulcan. Are you related? You wont get it because your standards fall short of those required by this forum. You got a well reasoned answer and you are ignoring it. This post has been edited by Cock-up-over-conspiracy: |
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Rebecca Black has about 50 million views and nearly as many parodies. I think parodies is the answer. 13 million views and no parodies ... yet. I think "melloden" might be on to something. Laughing Baby has a parody, and an article. EDIT: And haters. One commenter said he wanted to see the baby laughing "while engulfed in flames". Another said "Retarded human infant!!! I will destroy you all!!!!" (1). I guess when the baby goes on Good Morning America and tells Katie Couric that these YouTube comments made him cry, Wikipedia will repeat the quotes in the article, and Mr. up-over-conspiracy will compare writing the Wikipedia article to committing a violent felony. I just have to say that if the entire notoriety of Laughing Baby is on the basis of it being "the funniest home movie ever" that is plainly not true. Wikipedia needs to delete the article on Laughing Baby until there are at least 20 articles about Hannah Arendt. This post has been edited by anthony: |
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I just have to say that if the entire notoriety of Laughing Baby is on the basis of it being "the funniest home movie ever" that is plainly not true. Wikipedia needs to delete the article on Laughing Baby until there are at least 20 articles about Hannah Arendt. It is a shame you are taking the piss because for once I agree with you. Thank you for confirming yet again what a pile of fermenting ordure Jimbo's carbuncle is. QUOTE I guess when the baby goes on Good Morning America and tells Katie Couric that these YouTube comments made him cry, Wikipedia will repeat the quotes in the article, and Mr. up-over-conspiracy will compare writing the Wikipedia article to committing a violent felony. Now, this is typical Wiki-moron behaviour ... You attempted to make an issue. I answered it and you lost the point. The word has more than one meaning and I used it accurately, if a little archaically. You probably don't know this but, generally, the archaic use of a word in English denotes a greater formality, seriousness or importance to the proposition it is being used within. Yes, I too think they really should rename brassica napus because the use of the word must obviously bring back trauma memories to victims of the crime ... but then we are stuck with because in Latin rapa is the word for a turnip. Ditto other accurate uses, as I used it. The most frustrating part of "open door" online communities like the Wikipedia is that, unlike real life, it is not possible to quickly gauge what level or moronity other "colleagues" are ... or if they are even sober as they "work". |
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