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My blog post for today http://ocham.blogspot.com/2011/10/repetiti...-wikipedia.html on whether there are statistically measurable properties that distinguish 'content contributors' from wiki-gnomes. Conclusion: the statistical difference is strongly indicative of a real difference, discussed in detail on the blog.

Remaining questions: why do content contributors remain on the project, given that they have a lower status than those who perform repetitive and tedious work?

Easily-learned repetitive labour is nearly always paid less in real life than labour which requires either specialised learning, or some innate but scarce skill. The simple reason for this is supply and demand. Rare or difficult-to-acquire skills are by definition in short supply, and will attract a higher price than common, easily acquired skills (at least, to my simple mind - I don't know any economics).

So why is the situation apparently reversed on Wikipedia? The statistics suggest that the majority of administrators use these low-value skills like vandal reversion, template adding, linking to the Estonian Wikipedia etc. Yet their status on Wikipedia is high, whereas that of 'content contributors' is low.

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The kind of research being suggested here would be fine on Wikiversity. All that's needed is to avoid specific criticism of specific editors. Wikistudies are welcome there, otherwise.

A problem has been that some users have used Wikiversity as a platform from which to attack other users (mostly from Wikipedia).

I used Wikiversity, a user page, to document my block evasion on Wikipedia. That page did not coordinate blocking, did not attack Wikipedia (though it could be argued, I suppose, that my evasion was an attack), and did not criticize specific users, it reported responses neutrally. I suppose that someone could claim selection bias, but I did try to avoid that.

And the result was actually positive on Wikipedia. Certain excessive responses were noticed and corrected. A policy was rewritten. It was rare, I think, that a banned user would document his IP edits! Mostly banned users try to avoid detection. So little or no information can be compiled.

There was an attempt to delete this on Wikiversity, by someone who didn't understand it, I think. It failed. But "attack pages" are frequently deleted.

In any case, welcome to Wikiversity, anyone who wants to do original research in wiki studies. Let me know what you are doing, I'm User:Abd there, and I may be able to help. Wikiversity may be the only WMF wiki that allows original research. It is not an encyclopedia!

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QUOTE(Abd @ Sat 5th November 2011, 12:07am) *

Wikiversity may be the only WMF wiki that allows original research.

That's not true at all, although the WV sites (in several languages) may be the only ones to admit to it.
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Peter Damian   Content contributors  
SB_Johnny   So why is the situation apparently reversed on Wi...  
Ottava   So why is the situation apparently reversed on W...  
Peter Damian   So why is the situation apparently reversed on W...  
communicat   Peter/Edward, don't know if you've come ac...  
Peter Damian   Peter/Edward, don't know if you've come a...  
Ottava   Peter/Edward, don't know if you've come a...  
radek   My blog post for today [url=http://ocham.blogspot...  
Peter Damian   Wikipedia is not a market. That's interest...  
radek   Wikipedia is not a market. That's interes...  
thekohser   Wikipedia is not a market. For most editors, no,...  
radek   My blog post for today http://ocham.blogspot.com/...  
Peter Damian   Oh yeah Peter, one thing. Your methodology will o...  
radek   Well, there's no perfect way of doing it but...  
Ottava   Well, there's no perfect way of doing it but ...  
Peter Damian   I have a feeling that you might want to break dow...  
EricBarbour   For example, Fetchcommons has 28.26% of his posts...  
radek   Bear in mind that many of those "wiki gnome...  
timbo   For example, Fetchcommons has 28.26% of his post...  
communicat   PeterEdward, in my experience there's another ...  
Peter Damian   PeterEdward, in my experience there's another...  
communicat   [quote name='communicat' post='287348' date='Sun ...  
Peter Damian   I see no convincing comparison or correlation bet...  
Silver seren   How would you account for the people that work on ...  
Peter Damian   How would you account for the people that work on...  
radek   How would you account for the people that work o...  
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radek   As I mention above, after seeing Jechoman's...  
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EricBarbour   However, under 'content creators' there i...  
Ottava   Here, I made a matrix (and uploaded it to commons...  
radek   [quote name='radek' post='287366' date='Sun 30th ...  
Malleus   BTW, Malleus is a very clear outlier. Very high %...  
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