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Fun stuff. I wonder if the Wiki people can claim this is evil Western colonialism at work.
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I really hadn't intended to contribute to this thread, because it's been so funny, but I have to close the Webster bit once and for all.
Webster's New International became known as the "Unabridged". So when the revised version, the Third New International, came out, Webster's regarded it as the new Unabridged, and describe it as such in the preface. It omitted a certain amount of stuff better suited to an encyclopedia than a dictionary, and also a number of obsolete words, but overall it was bigger than the New International so it deserved to continue as the Unabridged. It has been available in two versions. One is as a single huge volume. The other, given away as a supplement to some sets of the Encyclopedia Britannica, is indeed in three volumes. It is identical to the one volume version, except that it has a multi-language dictionary as asupplement, occupying around half of the third volume. No doubt this is the "Britannica edition", so it is correct to describe it as a three-volume version of the Third New International and I cannot fathom why anyone would doubt that. Recent re-printings, of both the one volume and three volume versions, have included another supplement, of new words. However, this supplement is not that large, and scarcely amounts to two extra volumes! The Collegiate is far smaller than the Third New International, so cannot possibly be described as the Unabridged. However, it is more up to date since a new edition comes out every few years. There are online versions of both dictionaries, both behind pay walls. Both online versions of course incorporate supplements of new words. However, the online Third New International remains more than twice as big as the online Collegiate. So I hope that's that. PS: Powercorrupts is definitely British. This post has been edited by culeaker: |
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Webster's New International became known as the "Unabridged". No. The College Edition was also labelled "Unabridged." You guys really need to look in the beginning of books to read introductions. It isn't actually an unabridged dictionary, just an unabridged shorten version of a dictionary. The real definition of unabridged means to not limit itself. Oxford is unabridged, and the full OED contains many more words. QUOTE It has been available in two versions. One is as a single huge volume. You mean a repacked re-issue to sell more books along side of Britannica. Doesn't mean that the original was different. Anyone having a real copy of it would have known that. QUOTE The Collegiate is far smaller than the Third New International, so cannot possibly be described as the Unabridged. Because you are an fool who didn't bother to look. They have a shortened version of both dictionaries called "desk" editions, which are much, much smaller. But neither edition is truly unabridged, just the term is used to sell books to people like you without a clue. QUOTE So I hope that's that. No, because it was about them not having the word "Brit" in their dictionary. It was "that" when I pointed out that they removed items like jargon, proper nouns, and other items that used to be part of their dictionary to make it more for lower level individuals while the Collegiate edition retained many of them to target a more academic audience. This post has been edited by Ottava: |
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You mean a repacked re-issue to sell more books along side of Britannica. Doesn't mean that the original was different. Anyone having a real copy of it would have known that. It has been available in two versions. One is as a single huge volume. The other, given away as a supplement to some sets of the Encyclopedia Britannica, is indeed in three volumes. It is identical to the one volume version, except that it has a multi-language dictionary as asupplement, occupying around half of the third volume. Bit illiterate, aren't we? He's ruddy saying they're identical. How can that mean he's saying they're different? I pointed out that they removed items like jargon, proper nouns, and other items that used to be part of their dictionary to make it more for lower level individuals while the Collegiate edition retained many of them to target a more academic audience. You are abso-bloody-lutely mad! Give me one word - one ruddy word - that was in the old Unabridged that's not in the Third International but is in the main part of the Collegiate. This post has been edited by Retrospect: |
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Bit illiterate, aren't we? He's ruddy saying they're identical. How can that mean he's saying they're different? You are abso-bloody-lutely mad! Give me one word - one ruddy word - that was in the old Unabridged that's not in the Third International but is in the main part of the Collegiate. You sound like an ignorant, pole-smoking retard. Give it a rest, guv'nor. |
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