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Didn't anyone notice this? SchuminWeb (T-C-L-K-R-D)
, who has apparently held a grudge against OMM writer Erik Wolpaw, somehow managed to get the Wikipedia article about OMM (an old gaming site) deleted. Schumin tried before in January. The only vote I can see is from MelanieNÂ (T-C-L-K-R-D)
. Girlfriend? Sock? Among the results: Boing Boing had considerable coverage of it. Note some of the comments: QUOTE Sometimes I wish I could get back money I donated to them. I doubt I'll ever donate to wiki again. QUOTE This is standard Wikipedia. It's such a corrupt incestuous sausagefest. 'Free Encyclopedia' my ass. I've given up even trying to bother getting useful info past the neckbeards who run the place - there are just too many hidden toes that are easily trod upon. Oops! Neckbeards, ha ha. And here it is on Slashdot. Result: similar comments. QUOTE You know what should make your scratch your head? The problem you have just described at the same time happens to be the very essence and fundamental principle of Wikipedia. That anyone, including stupid morons, trolls with hidden agenda (competitors), and outright psychopaths can edit it any and every second, repeatedly and infinitely. It follows that Wikipedia is, and has inherently been from the very beginning, a fundamentally flawed experiment. Thanks god Google is starting to realize this and is moving the Wikipedia result to SERPS position #5, while the first 4 links point to the authoritative or official site (if one exists). QUOTE I used to contribute a fair amount to Wikipedia to get my brain going in the morning. I quit doing so a couple years ago, because the whole infighting and "notability" crap was ridiculous. Every single character from a book, movie, cartoon, video game, anime (pokemon, etc) gets a many-paged detailed entry while real people quickly get the brush because someone gets a thorn in their ass over something. And those "somethings" are hard to pin down. Some entries surprisingly don't exist, while others (someone with a podcast you've never heard of or who is supposedly some self-described social media expert, etc) gets an entry. That idiot from "Hot For Words" even has a wikipedia entry. QUOTE Firstly, I won't be donating to Wikipedia again. This is not because I'm an OMM fanboy taking my bat home in a huff, although I am also that. But actually, it's because this story has made me look into Wikipedia more, and apparently this shit is rife. I guess I should have known that, but I'd always been scared to check because I still had some faith in one human endeavour and was happy to let things stay that way, until I felt some pressing need to know otherwise. Well, game over on that front. Back to total misanthropy for me. Secondly, it's actually quite an interesting read because the Schumin guy who nominated for deletion, is evidently really, really, pathetic. And not in a kind of sad and disappointing, move along cowboy way, but actually to a degree that's almost gripping. This article highlights an almost iconic exemplar of the form of pathetic, to the degree that it's actually compelling. To whit, and as best as I can tell from summaries, a man who is mocked - for being pathetic no less - by a popular gaming culture website waits a DECADE for revenge, whilst the world moves on around him, and the revengee behind the site goes on to pen dialogue for a video game that many people rightly consider one of the genuinely enduring classics of the new age. I've seen a lot of buzz about this on gaming forums. Mr. Schumin is quite the classic Wikipedia admin-troll. Look at the vote in his 2007 RFA. Now look at the vote when he first tried in 2006. There are numerous complaints about him in AN/I and Wikiquette. And btw, he cooperates with Cirt when Scientology articles come up..... This post has been edited by EricBarbour:
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QUOTE(Infomercial @ Sat 29th December 2012, 11:15pm) This is just a bump to say that Schumin recently retired from Wikipedia. After his several flagrant abuses of power, I can't say that I'll miss him, but it's too bad he couldn't have stuck around long enough to go through what would've been a very lulzy arbitration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=529472366: QUOTE The accepted [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/SchuminWeb|case]] is hereby suspended pending [[User:SchuminWeb|SchuminWeb's]] return to editing. SchuminWeb is instructed not to use his administrator tools in any way until the closure of the case; doing so will be grounds for removal of his administrator userrights. Should SchuminWeb decide to resign his administrative tools, the case will be closed and no further action taken. Should SchuminWeb not return to participate in the case within three months of this motion passing, this case will be closed, and the account will be desysopped. If the tools are resigned or removed in either of the circumstances described above, restoration of the tools to SchuminWeb will require a [[WP:RFA|new request for adminship]]. If he returns, he'll either have to go through Arbitration in order to remain a sysop or resign his sysop tools in order to avoid Arbitration. If he doesn't return within three months, he'll be desysopped.
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QUOTE(Retrospect @ Mon 31st December 2012, 1:34pm) QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 31st December 2012, 1:01pm) If he returns, he'll either have to go through Arbitration in order to remain a sysop or resign his sysop tools in order to avoid Arbitration. If he doesn't return within three months, he'll be desysopped.
Yes, sounds ruddy fine in theory. But there's nothing to stop him socking and becoming an admin again, is there? You mean "Yes, it sounds very fine in theory, but there is nothing to stop him from socking and becoming an admin once more" right? Otherwise, you butchered everything. Even your use of "ruddy" was wrong. Ruddy means "damned" and not "damn." A real Brit would know this.
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Wed 2nd January 2013, 11:59pm) You can use this page to brush up on the basics of English grammar. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif) Ottava's been drinking too much Jimbojuice. You should never quote Wikipedia as an authoritative reference on anything.
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QUOTE(Detective @ Thu 3rd January 2013, 7:35am) QUOTE(Ottava @ Wed 2nd January 2013, 11:59pm) You can use this page to brush up on the basics of English grammar. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif) Ottava's been drinking too much Jimbojuice. You should never quote Wikipedia as an authoritative reference on anything. I never said it was authoritative. I did say that it has the basics. It does a decent job at defining various types of clauses.
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Fri 4th January 2013, 4:19am) There is just more and more gobblygook every time I look at this forum.
Yes, I've noticed that. It comes mostly from someone with a ruddy yellow cat atavar. If you don't like the contents of this site, go away and leave it to the grown-ups. Oh, and it's "gobbledygook", not "gobblygook". The latter is a neologism: QUOTE Most usually referring to some inane math equation (or a section of one) on the board, but can be used in other situations in which someone understands something but doesn't feel like going through the process of saying it out loud.
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Fri 4th January 2013, 1:10pm) QUOTE(Retrospect @ Fri 4th January 2013, 7:33am) Oh, and it's "gobbledygook", not "gobblygook". The latter is a neologism: QUOTE Most usually referring to some inane math equation (or a section of one) on the board, but can be used in other situations in which someone understands something but doesn't feel like going through the process of saying it out loud. You are obviously not a native speaker of English if you never heard the word before and had to look it up at Urban Dictionary. You would also know that there is no "set" spelling for a term that is mostly a noise - a garbled version of "gobble". Only a non-native speaker would have responded in the above manner. The word "neologism" doesn't mean what you think it means. I can help here. "Neologism" means "a new word or expression". Certainly "gobblygook" qualifies as a neologism because there is absolutely no record of that word going back more than a few years, whereas "gobbledygook" was coined in 1944. Certainly there is no "set" spelling, and the various Merriam-Webster dictionaries do give several spellings, but they all have a d in, because that's how the word is pronounced. I cannot find any print dictionary with "gobblygook" in, although Retrospect is correct in saying that it is in Urban Dictionary. The Wikipedia article on Gobbledygook also does not give gobblygook as a valid spelling. It does contain the word once, but this is obviously a typo, since it is a link to this site: http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/examples/gob...-generator.htmlQUOTE(Retrospect @ Fri 4th January 2013, 12:33pm) If you don't like the contents of this site, go away and leave it to the grown-ups. This post has been edited by Jay:
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Fri 4th January 2013, 10:29pm) Neologism are about different works, not spelling variants.
(IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/confused.gif) QUOTE Only someone from India would say something as ridiculous as you stated.
You really must stop these nasty vicious racist attacks on Indians. QUOTE I guess you would also quibble with woof vs ruff vs bowow. I have no idea what a bowow is. If it is your attempt to spell bow-wow, then that is a completely different sound from a woof, as you would know if you had ever encountered a dog. Do you think "miaow" and "purr" are synonyms? I am reluctantly coming to the conclusion that it is you who is not the native speaker of English.
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QUOTE(Jay @ Fri 4th January 2013, 5:40pm) You really must stop these nasty vicious racist attacks on Indians.
It is racist to say that someone from India doesn't have the same understanding of the English language as native speakers? What a troll. QUOTE If it is your attempt to spell bow-wow, then that is a completely different sound from a woof
There is no set spelling for an onomatopoeia, which is why there are thousands of variants, and if you think "woof woof" and "bow-wow" are different, then you are an idiot. But you are just an idiot and a troll, so you most likely have no clue what you are even posting. Oh, p.s., your editing behavior, times, and the rest all match up. Thank you for verifying that the three accounts are all yours. It is nice of you. This post has been edited by Ottava:
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