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There's been a bit of speculation as to the nature of the long-deleted Slimv account.

As I mentioned last week, I have several database dumps, which I've been painstakingly reviewing in search of insights on this and the many other odd deletions made by Musical Linguist in early June of 2006.

Trust me when I say: there is some wild stuff in there.

Wild.

The main SlimVirgin content you'll have to wait for, but Slimv I shall share with you now.

It would appear that Slimv made a single edit in her career, logged November 5, 2004 to the article on Mordacai Vanunu, the guy who revealed the existence of Israel's nuclear weapons program in the mid-80s.

When Vanunu squealed, he was smart enough to do so from England, but that didn't stop the Mossad from capturing and imprisoning him in Israel for 18 years.

Slimv's contribution to the article provided some very unique insights into the role Sunday Mirror owner Robert Maxwell might have had in revealing Vanunu's treason.

Though it's been deleted, you can still see the substance of Slimv's addition by looking at the diffs that previously surrounded it.

When you do, ignore every thing above Line 15, as this is the edit that followed Slimv's. The changes you see below Line 15 were made by Slimv.

Remember, Musical Linguist said that deletion was a result of personally identifying information included in the edit. Either that's the case, or it's not. If it is: whoa. If it's not: whoa.

It's also worth noting that Musical Linguist deleted at least one edit from the Robert Maxwell article at the same time she was deleting the Vanunu edit and Slimv's user page.

One more thing.

Six days after Slimv made her one and only edit, followed a few hours later by SlimVirgin's inaugural contribution, two things happened: Mordacai Vanunu was re-arrested, and Yasser Arafat assumed room temperature. That was a busy week for Israeli intelligence.

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Logically, it seems almost inconceivable it could be a different person. Probably she just improved at Wikipedia writing as time passed, and that's why it seems careless by comparison.
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QUOTE(everyking @ Sun 5th August 2007, 8:46am) *

Logically, it seems almost inconceivable it could be a different person. Probably she just improved at Wikipedia writing as time passed, and that's why it seems careless by comparison.

That could be, and people definitely do get better at writing with practice. Disregarding the evidence that points to her being a journalist at one time (ie looking at this objectively, ignoring prior evidence), her writing reads like a person who not only enjoys writing, but has done it very much during her life, perhaps as a profession. One theory may be that the Slimv edits were written to appear like a person who is not like this.

She is probably the best writer I have seen on Wikipedia, although a few others like Mangoe are right up there, I really can't think of a better one...

I've never seen SV write prose like this on a bad day. I am speculating that she was a journalist and on a bad day her prose was not like that. Perhaps when she made those edits, she had not written previously for a long time, but I still do not think her writing would be quite that bad. These Slimv edits are simply shocking, in more ways than one.

Off topic: My short theory that may go along with the theme of this thread is this is that Slim was nothing more than a journalist, with a lot of contacts. Some of these have been intelligence agents (or she at least thought they were) and she got caught up in that. She ended up pushing their agenda and maybe did a few things a journalist should not do. I think that situation exists today, under different circumstances of course.

In essence, I believe her to be nothing more than a former "wannabe" intelligence agent. I won't go any deeper than that, and this may be written too vague, but I don't want to detract from WordBomb's thread.

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QUOTE(BobbyBombastic @ Sun 5th August 2007, 7:39pm) *

Off topic: My short theory that may go along with the theme of this thread is this is that Slim was nothing more than a journalist, with a lot of contacts. Some of these have been intelligence agents (or she at least thought they were) and she got caught up in that. She ended up pushing their agenda and maybe did a few things a journalist should not do. I think that situation exists today, under different circumstances of course.

In essence, I believe her to be nothing more than a former "wannabe" intelligence agent. I won't go any deeper than that, and this may be written too vague, but I don't want to detract from WordBomb's thread.


This is a possibility.

(BTW, for all we know other edits were oversighted, not just Slim's, right? So the crap writing could have been put there by someone else.)

Anthony: If she had been selected as an agent, then she wouldn't draw attention to herself by such eccentric behaviour.
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QUOTE(Unrepentant Vandal @ Sun 5th August 2007, 9:37pm) *

QUOTE(BobbyBombastic @ Sun 5th August 2007, 7:39pm) *

Off topic: My short theory that may go along with the theme of this thread is this is that Slim was nothing more than a journalist, with a lot of contacts. Some of these have been intelligence agents (or she at least thought they were) and she got caught up in that. She ended up pushing their agenda and maybe did a few things a journalist should not do. I think that situation exists today, under different circumstances of course.

In essence, I believe her to be nothing more than a former "wannabe" intelligence agent. I won't go any deeper than that, and this may be written too vague, but I don't want to detract from WordBomb's thread.


This is a possibility.

(BTW, for all we know other edits were oversighted, not just Slim's, right? So the crap writing could have been put there by someone else.)

Anthony: If she had been selected as an agent, then she wouldn't draw attention to herself by such eccentric behaviour.

The writing wasn't put there by someone else as I saw all her edits before they were oversighted. I'm not sure why people are so sure in dismissing SV as an agent when at least 2 if not 3 people have said that she was an agent.
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QUOTE(jorge @ Sun 5th August 2007, 4:45pm) *
The writing wasn't put there by someone else as I saw all her edits before they were oversighted. I'm not sure why people are so sure in dismissing SV as an agent when at least 2 if not 3 people have said that she was an agent.

Hmmm.... To be strictly accurate, I don't think most people are completely dismissing the idea that she might have been (or is) an "agent," or whatever you want to call it. (I sort of like "unwitting dupe," myself...)

The problem is that it's next to impossible to prove, so it's safer/nicer/preferable to avoid referring to it as a likely possibility. The more conspiratorially-minded of our members can draw their own conclusions, of course.

Having said all that, foreign journalists are approached (and fed information of varying levels of dubiousness) by intelligence types all the time, with and without their knowing it. That just seems much more likely to me, assuming there was any spook involvement at all.
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QUOTE(Somey @ Sun 5th August 2007, 11:08pm) *

QUOTE(jorge @ Sun 5th August 2007, 4:45pm) *
The writing wasn't put there by someone else as I saw all her edits before they were oversighted. I'm not sure why people are so sure in dismissing SV as an agent when at least 2 if not 3 people have said that she was an agent.

Hmmm.... To be strictly accurate, I don't think most people are completely dismissing the idea that she might have been (or is) an "agent," or whatever you want to call it. (I sort of like "unwitting dupe," myself...)

The problem is that it's next to impossible to prove, so it's safer/nicer/preferable to avoid referring to it as a likely possibility. The more conspiratorially-minded of our members can draw their own conclusions, of course.

Having said all that, foreign journalists are approached (and fed information of varying levels of dubiousness) by intelligence types all the time, with and without their knowing it. That just seems much more likely to me, assuming there was any spook involvement at all.

I think people's perceptions have been distorted a little in that in Daniel's summing up of what is known about SV he forgot to mention that two or three people had identified SV as an agent.
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the fieryangel   Six days after Slimv made her one and only edit, ...  
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guy   Welcome, Herr Hagenstroem.  
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