QUOTE(guy @ Tue 20th November 2007, 4:52am)
Has anyone here who is in good standing tried e-mailing her? I must confess I haven't.
She's accused quite a few naiive trusting (normal persons) who tried emailing her of harassment. Talk about a honey pot. Between telling COI editors to contact her for direction, or anyone to contact her at all, she is just finding new meat to flagellate. "Contact me directly" means "if I can get away with it, or if I feel like it, I'll use your emails to kick you off the project."
The IP address she banned (claiming wrongly it was Greg), who emailed her four days ago was accussed of harassment for having sent four emails. For this, she suggested banning the IP (I suppose this was if it wasn't really Greg, it should get banned anyways).
JeHochman called this "email evidence" to prove that IP was Greg. Why do they think this was G? Because he called her Lisa? Everyone knows her name is Lise. (spelled with an e, not an a, as the IP did). Her full name has been published on Youtube, and 20 SEO sites, and is very, very googleable. Hello?
Read the pipermail exchange (hilarious, but scarily revealing of her) which shows why your not having contacted her was wise.Proof that to Durova, any Email which she doesn't like is Harassment (like any person she doesn't like is a sock)QUOTE
Harassing e-mails, part 1
by Durova Nov 14, 2007; 03:14pm :: Rate this Message:
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Hi Lisa,
I know for a fact that User:24.19.33.82 has nothing to do with Greg Kohs.
You've really blown it here, and comments such as…
"I'll call this a WP:DUCK block: I've been blocking Wikipedia Review socks for a
year and am pretty good at spotting them."
"With experience one gets quite good at this."
…will make you look awfully stupid if the true identity of
User:24.19.33.82comes out.
How do I know this? Because that's my current IP (for now.) My aim was only
to edit anonymously like any other IP. So please let me do so. Otherwise,
I'm forced to prove how badly you and Jonathan have messed this up in order
to get unblocked. Unblocking the IP's yourself (which belong to public
commercial establishments, you shouldn't be blocking them for 3 months
anyway) with some summary like "benefit of the doubt" would be a face-saving
way for you to avoid this.
-M.O.
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Re: Harassing e-mails, part 1
by joshua.zelinsky Nov 14, 2007; 03:34pm :: Rate this Message:
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I'm missing something. Who is "M.O."?
Quoting Durova <nadezhda.durova@...>:
> Hi Lisa,
>
> I know for a fact that User:24.19.33.82 has nothing to do with Greg Kohs.
> You've really blown it here, and comments such as…
>
> "I'll call this a WP:DUCK block: I've been blocking Wikipedia Review socks for a
> year and am pretty good at spotting them."
>
> "With experience one gets quite good at this."
>
> …will make you look awfully stupid if the true identity of
> User:24.19.33.82comes out.
>
> How do I know this? Because that's my current IP (for now.) My aim was only
> to edit anonymously like any other IP. So please let me do so. Otherwise,
> I'm forced to prove how badly you and Jonathan have messed this up in order
> to get unblocked. Unblocking the IP's yourself (which belong to public
> commercial establishments, you shouldn't be blocking them for 3 months
> anyway) with some summary like "benefit of the doubt" would be a face-saving
> way for you to avoid this.
>
> -M.O.
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Re: Harassing e-mails, part 1
by Kamryn Matika Nov 14, 2007; 06:42pm :: Rate this Message:
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On Nov 14, 2007 3:14 PM, Durova <nadezhda.durova@...> wrote:
> Hi Lisa,
>
> I know for a fact that User:24.19.33.82 has nothing to do with Greg Kohs.
> You've really blown it here, and comments such as…
>
> "I'll call this a WP:DUCK block: I've been blocking Wikipedia Review socks for a
> year and am pretty good at spotting them."
>
> "With experience one gets quite good at this."
>
> …will make you look awfully stupid if the true identity of
> User:24.19.33.82comes out.
>
> How do I know this? Because that's my current IP (for now.) My aim was only
> to edit anonymously like any other IP. So please let me do so. Otherwise,
> I'm forced to prove how badly you and Jonathan have messed this up in order
> to get unblocked. Unblocking the IP's yourself (which belong to public
> commercial establishments, you shouldn't be blocking them for 3 months
> anyway) with some summary like "benefit of the doubt" would be a face-saving
> way for you to avoid this.
>
> -M.O.
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That doesn't qualify as harassment I'm afraid.
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by Durova Nov 15, 2007; 01:56am :: Rate this Message:
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That doesn't qualify as harassment I'm afraid.
****
No it doesn't, but by the fourth message the exchange did qualify as
harassment. After the second I requested no further contact.
Perhaps you inhabit a universe where it's socially acceptable for a stranger
to address a woman by her name without identifying himself, and to continue
sending her messages late into the night after she's insisted that he stop.
Perhaps you also live in a universe that does not recognize the elementary
courtesy of asking her permission before reposting part of an unwanted
conversation to a public list, devoid of context, and attempting to pass
judgement on it.
You owe me an apology. A big one.
-Durova
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Re: Harassing e-mails, part 1
by Durova Nov 15, 2007; 02:15am :: Rate this Message:
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Allow me to retract that. I missent the original to the wrong address. My
apologies for the response.
-Durova
You owe me an apology. A big one.
>
> -Durova
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No one can email her with her real name unless given permission? What century is she living in? She's not Nancy Drew. She's not Mata Hari.
She's Hester Prynne.After that rant, I say she's not only a bad research, not only paranoid, but she's very close to certifiable.
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