Durova_and_Jehochman Arb-com case is opened!, ...the supersekret mailing list is part of the case..... Options

Pop that popcorn and take your seats!


Private Musings brings up the not-so-secret "secret mailing list" here....

Wikidiots are already trying to put out the flames...

Statement by uninvolved party Stephan Schulz (talk)

I would suggest to withdraw this request for now, or alternatively for the ArbCom to reject it without prejudice. There is a very active and productive RfC pertinent to this topic, and an action by ArbCom would be premature at this time. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 12:24, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Statement by uninvolved party Alecmconroy

I concur-- insofar as this Arbcom applies to Durova, it's entirely unnecessary. She's an "Administrators open to recall" whose set her limit at 5 users. The count that have requested recall/desysop now stands at I believe 20+, so a new RFA is a certainty.

To file an Arbcom case now, demanding a forcible desysop, is to Assume Bad Faith, in essence "expecting her to reneg on her recall promise". There is no reason whatsoever to suspect this-- she'll agree to a new RFA, and in all likelyhood she'll pass it too. I'd suggest withdrawing the RFAr, or at least withdrawing her from it. --Alecmconroy (talk) 13:47, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Now, I don't believe that they're going to accept this for a minute....but it could get, um, interesting even if they don't.....

I think that Greg needs to add "FREE DUROVA!" items to his shop!

This post has been edited by the fieryangel:

(originally posted in the wrong place)

Looks like Durova will stand for reconfirmation at RfA after the ArbCom case is over (unless they remove her tools).

(originally posted in the wrong place)

Looks like Durova will stand for reconfirmation at RfA after the ArbCom case is over (unless they remove her tools).

How could anyone, after reading this case and all of the evidence, ever allow her to be an administrator at Wikipedia? Her case is as sad as it is a representation of a truly out of touch and quite possibly disturbed person. I believe she needs help that the Arbcom. panel cannot give.

If any of this is presented to intelligent people, they will send her on her way; quite possibly to a very good therapist and a reputable treatment center. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif)

This post has been edited by WhispersOfWisdom:

How could anyone, after reading this case and all of the evidence, ever allow her to be an administrator at Wikipedia? Her case is as sad as it is a representation of a truly out of touch and quite possibly disturbed person. I believe she needs

Apparently you didnt hear about a guy named Essjay, who lied to a NewYorker reporter, about his degrees and being a professor of divinity (he had a high school diploma). He was outed by peoples from this board, there was an outcry, and still, he was appointed to a management job at Wikia one month later. By Jimbo. Bigger outcries. Jimbo asked him to resign. You dont know this? You gotta read your WP history.

How could anyone, after reading this case and all of the evidence, ever allow her to be an administrator at Wikipedia? Her case is as sad as it is a representation of a truly out of touch and quite possibly disturbed person. I believe she needs help that the Arbcom. panel cannot give.

If any of this is presented to intelligent people, they will send her on her way; quite possibly to a very good therapist and a reputable treatment center. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif)

Wiki-therapy. Hm.

She's obviously not talented, look at all the mistakes she makes. She's just full of herself. There is a difference, even if they inspire the same sympathy.

I agree. She kept telling people how talented she was. She said she couldn't show her work because of "methods and operations" or some such nonsense. Whenever she wrote her lecturing articles to the business community, and especially her YouTube video, I felt embarrassed for her. Then we get a look at her secret work product in her complex investigations and it makes her look just plain stupid. No sympathy here.

I mean a talented writer, thinker, researcher, and such. Things that are good for the encyclopedia. But as an authority figure, she is in need of mentorship (though she loves being a mentor), because she needs limits. She needs a good management structure (most people do). She's too powerful of a character, and too egoistic to be left unfettered.

As for being self-important, she's that too. And her sleuthing skills suck. She mistakenly thinks she is psychic, and that's never a good place to be operating from, as an investigator.