Oversight by HU12 for Durova Barnstars, They really do want them, and she still really *is *popular Options

Is this what it has come to? Please

I want to hand a barnstar to everyone who played a significant role in this major undertaking. Excellent work! Please list the usernames of people who deserve that thanks. DurovaCharge! 22:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Kohs first commented on the lack of responses at 8 Dec UMT. So did JCache, and me (who made cricket noises). Suddenly there was a pre-dated post from HU12, giving names for candidates for the barnstar.

Off hand, Jeffpw and Save_Us did an excellent job doing a large chunk of the cleanup, couldn't have been easy. I'm sure many more were involved in the cleanup portion of this, as there were ton of links. Hope they come forward. Others, of course, MER-C A. B. Mr.Z-man.. "mee toos", im sure are welcome. --Hu12 (talk) 22:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

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It really has come down to such small things for them (or her).

I'm convinced HU12 is either Durova or Virgin Griffiths, who she was doing some joint wikiscanner (or perhaps other counter-cyber-whatever) work with.

This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey:

Is this what it has come to? Please

I want to hand a barnstar to everyone who played a significant role in this major undertaking. Excellent work! Please list the usernames of people who deserve that thanks. DurovaCharge! 22:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Kohs first commented on the lack of responses at 8 Dec UMT. So did JCache, and me (who made cricket noises). Suddenly there was a pre-dated post from HU12, giving names for candidates for the barnstar.

Off hand, Jeffpw and Save_Us did an excellent job doing a large chunk of the cleanup, couldn't have been easy. I'm sure many more were involved in the cleanup portion of this, as there were ton of links. Hope they come forward. Others, of course, MER-C A. B. Mr.Z-man.. "mee toos", im sure are welcome. --Hu12 (talk) 22:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

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# (cur) (last) 07:00, 8 December 2007 Beagel (Talk | contribs) (50,508 bytes) (→Please replace references - apology) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:47, 7 December 2007 Hu12 (Talk | contribs) (50,127 bytes) (→Credit where credit is due) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:46, 7 December 2007 Hu12 (Talk | contribs) (50,094 bytes) (→Credit where credit is due) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:41, 7 December 2007 Hu12 (Talk | contribs) (49,876 bytes) (→Credit where credit is due) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:40, 7 December 2007 Hu12 (Talk | contribs) (49,860 bytes) (→Credit where credit is due - agree) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:06, 7 December 2007 Durova (Talk | contribs) (49,507 bytes) (Credit where credit is due) (undo)

It really has come down to such small things for them (or her).

I'm convinced HU12 is either Durova or Virgin Griffiths, who she was doing some joint wikiscanner (or perhaps other counter-cyber-whatever) work with.

Is Hu12 the one that started out editing nothing but sex stuff? That was pointed out to me just recently. I thought maybe that would have been a sock of some sexy girl; maybe someone that worked with Jimmy Wales at his former site?


Sorry, that is FT2 !!! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif)

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Is Hu12 the one that started out editing nothing but sex stuff? That was pointed out to me just recently. I thought maybe that would have been a sock of some sexy girl; maybe someone that worked with Jimmy Wales at his former site?

Then its either Virgil Griffiths, or Durova trying to toss her scent off the account. Or, maybe they share it.

Normally, Durova wouldn't take a person who likes to edit sex stuff on as a protogee. She usually wants to kill these people.

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Is Hu12 the one that started out editing nothing but sex stuff? That was pointed out to me just recently. I thought maybe that would have been a sock of some sexy girl; maybe someone that worked with Jimmy Wales at his former site?

Then its either Virgil Griffiths, or Durova trying to toss her scent off the account. Or, maybe they share it.

Normally, Durova wouldn't take a person who likes to edit sex stuff on as a protogee. She usually wants to kill these people.

Sorry...I was just told that I was thinking of FT2. Maybe a former Jimmy associate?

Sorry...I was just told that I was thinking of FT2. Maybe a former Jimmy associate?

Why does someone have to have been related to Bomis to edit sex articles? Why would a former associate of Jimmy be so vested in Durova's fragile ego that they's make three complex edits" to borrow her terminology to a simple proposal for barnstars (three careful edits, with links to names). NO WAY.

The only person who'd bother to refactor history to cover up her lagging popularity is Durova. If I'm correct here, and this ever is dicovered (and she is bound to out herself in a bigger way eventually) there will be hell to pay. Not from us. Who cares about us. But most of Wikipedia is pissed off at her. Not to mention that the mainstream press has been following this tory. They haven't reported about this, but they know who she is. And when she comes out as being Durova, it will be a major dirtstorm the likes of which you've never seen. No wonder Angela resigned from this playground. She's serious. (and no wonder she didn't speak directly to Durova).

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:Off hand, [[User:Jeffpw|Jeffpw]] and [[User:Save Us 229|<font color="007FFF">Save_Us</font>]] did an excellent job doing a large chunk of the cleanup, couldn't have been easy. I'm sure many more were involved in the cleanup, as there were ton of links. Hope they come forward.--[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] ([[User talk:Hu12|talk]]) 22:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

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:Off hand, [[User:Jeffpw|Jeffpw]] and [[User:Save Us 229|<font color="007FFF">Save_Us</font>]] did an excellent job doing a large chunk of the cleanup, couldn't have been easy. I'm sure many more were involved in the cleanup portion of this, as there were ton of links. Hope they come forward.--[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] ([[User talk:Hu12|talk]]) 22:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

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:Off hand, [[User:Jeffpw|Jeffpw]] and [[User:Save Us 229|<font color="007FFF">Save_Us</font>]] did an excellent job doing a large chunk of the cleanup, couldn't have been easy. I'm sure many more were involved in the cleanup portion of this, as there were ton of links. Hope they come forward. Others, of course, [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] [[User:A. B.|A. B.]] [[User:Mr.Z-man|<font color="#056366">Mr.</font>]]''[[User talk:Mr.Z-man|<font color="#056625">'''Z-'''</font><font color="#054F66">man</font>]]</font>''.. --[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] ([[User talk:Hu12|talk]]) 22:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey:

not to say that hu12 is or isnt durova, but i've seen many instances on WP of people who are compelled to sychophantically groom other's WP pages in defense.

crum375 isn't SV, but is a regular delete-restore groomer of SV's nits.

Any opp to remove vandalism also was an opp to remove edits by SV herself that were compromising. baby and bathwater.

Don't you think Crum could have lent her his account? Crum is supposed to be a guy, but sometimes "he" is very much like SV.

On the same note, HU12 seems to be either a shared account, with a male (maybe VG) or Durova's own sock.

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Don't you think Crum could have lent her his account? Crum is supposed to be a guy, but sometimes "he" is very much like SV.

On the same note, HU12 seems to be either a shared account, with a male (maybe VG) or Durova's own sock.

hard to prove anything - unlike durova i won't prove something without actual facts. could be.

here's what I "know" about Crum375.

He/she started out objectively editing, and actually came in conflict with jayjg/sv early on. he ( i think a he) probably crossed SV's paths on Lockerbie. Crum375 is mostly an aero article editor, and quite in interest in air crash forensics.

I believe he just gained strong sympathy for SV/others for what he believed to be his wikifriends getting "attacked". When our friends are shown to be doing something wrong, we often knee-jerk to their defense, unconditionally, and call it "attacks". human nature.

He's compromised WP ethics to do what he thinks is the ends justifying the means. Just as SV does with her Lockerbie/Salinger/PETA POV Warrior schtick. His entire SPA now is to defend team SV.

I dont think Crum has socks - he doesn't need them as long as the Arbcom/SV team is using his wikifriendship to defend all things they do, no matter if the means dont justify the ends.

we all do things that we feel justify the ends. i'm probably oversympathetic of the people i am appalled at, though. i'd like to think i have some sympathy for the weakness of man, while equally hoping those who let their weaknesses lead to the wrong ends will be removed from the positions that give them the ability to perpetuate those wrongs.

some of the sleuthing conclusions i read here are the flip-side of the fallacies that led WP to be able to ban me as a wordbomb sock- overstock meatpuppet. let's be better than "them". let's objectively "prove" such things.

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crum375 isn't SV, but is a regular delete-restore groomer of SV's nits.

Crum375 was, by her admission, an early student and friend of the husband and wife aerobatics team, The French Connection. Their school opened at an upstate NY airport in the 70s. They both died in a training accident in 2000.

Crum's also interested in scuba diving and winter sports. My impression is she is a middle-aged adventuress who feels a certain kinship with SV.