Oversight by HU12 for Durova Barnstars, They really do want them, and she still really *is *popular Options

Is this what it has come to? Please

I want to hand a barnstar to everyone who played a significant role in this major undertaking. Excellent work! Please list the usernames of people who deserve that thanks. DurovaCharge! 22:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Kohs first commented on the lack of responses at 8 Dec UMT. So did JCache, and me (who made cricket noises). Suddenly there was a pre-dated post from HU12, giving names for candidates for the barnstar.

Off hand, Jeffpw and Save_Us did an excellent job doing a large chunk of the cleanup, couldn't have been easy. I'm sure many more were involved in the cleanup portion of this, as there were ton of links. Hope they come forward. Others, of course, MER-C A. B. Mr.Z-man.. "mee toos", im sure are welcome. --Hu12 (talk) 22:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

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# (cur) (last) 07:00, 8 December 2007 Beagel (Talk | contribs) (50,508 bytes) (→Please replace references - apology) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:47, 7 December 2007 Hu12 (Talk | contribs) (50,127 bytes) (→Credit where credit is due) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:46, 7 December 2007 Hu12 (Talk | contribs) (50,094 bytes) (→Credit where credit is due) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:41, 7 December 2007 Hu12 (Talk | contribs) (49,876 bytes) (→Credit where credit is due) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:40, 7 December 2007 Hu12 (Talk | contribs) (49,860 bytes) (→Credit where credit is due - agree) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:06, 7 December 2007 Durova (Talk | contribs) (49,507 bytes) (Credit where credit is due) (undo)

It really has come down to such small things for them (or her).

I'm convinced HU12 is either Durova or Virgin Griffiths, who she was doing some joint wikiscanner (or perhaps other counter-cyber-whatever) work with.

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Is this what it has come to? Please

I want to hand a barnstar to everyone who played a significant role in this major undertaking. Excellent work! Please list the usernames of people who deserve that thanks. DurovaCharge! 22:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Kohs first commented on the lack of responses at 8 Dec UMT. So did JCache, and me (who made cricket noises). Suddenly there was a pre-dated post from HU12, giving names for candidates for the barnstar.

Off hand, Jeffpw and Save_Us did an excellent job doing a large chunk of the cleanup, couldn't have been easy. I'm sure many more were involved in the cleanup portion of this, as there were ton of links. Hope they come forward. Others, of course, MER-C A. B. Mr.Z-man.. "mee toos", im sure are welcome. --Hu12 (talk) 22:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

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# (cur) (last) 07:00, 8 December 2007 Beagel (Talk | contribs) (50,508 bytes) (→Please replace references - apology) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:47, 7 December 2007 Hu12 (Talk | contribs) (50,127 bytes) (→Credit where credit is due) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:46, 7 December 2007 Hu12 (Talk | contribs) (50,094 bytes) (→Credit where credit is due) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:41, 7 December 2007 Hu12 (Talk | contribs) (49,876 bytes) (→Credit where credit is due) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:40, 7 December 2007 Hu12 (Talk | contribs) (49,860 bytes) (→Credit where credit is due - agree) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:06, 7 December 2007 Durova (Talk | contribs) (49,507 bytes) (Credit where credit is due) (undo)

It really has come down to such small things for them (or her).

I'm convinced HU12 is either Durova or Virgin Griffiths, who she was doing some joint wikiscanner (or perhaps other counter-cyber-whatever) work with.

Is Hu12 the one that started out editing nothing but sex stuff? That was pointed out to me just recently. I thought maybe that would have been a sock of some sexy girl; maybe someone that worked with Jimmy Wales at his former site?


Sorry, that is FT2 !!! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif)

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Is Hu12 the one that started out editing nothing but sex stuff? That was pointed out to me just recently. I thought maybe that would have been a sock of some sexy girl; maybe someone that worked with Jimmy Wales at his former site?

Then its either Virgil Griffiths, or Durova trying to toss her scent off the account. Or, maybe they share it.

Normally, Durova wouldn't take a person who likes to edit sex stuff on as a protogee. She usually wants to kill these people.

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Is Hu12 the one that started out editing nothing but sex stuff? That was pointed out to me just recently. I thought maybe that would have been a sock of some sexy girl; maybe someone that worked with Jimmy Wales at his former site?

Then its either Virgil Griffiths, or Durova trying to toss her scent off the account. Or, maybe they share it.

Normally, Durova wouldn't take a person who likes to edit sex stuff on as a protogee. She usually wants to kill these people.

Sorry...I was just told that I was thinking of FT2. Maybe a former Jimmy associate?

Sorry...I was just told that I was thinking of FT2. Maybe a former Jimmy associate?

Why does someone have to have been related to Bomis to edit sex articles? Why would a former associate of Jimmy be so vested in Durova's fragile ego that they's make three complex edits" to borrow her terminology to a simple proposal for barnstars (three careful edits, with links to names). NO WAY.

The only person who'd bother to refactor history to cover up her lagging popularity is Durova. If I'm correct here, and this ever is dicovered (and she is bound to out herself in a bigger way eventually) there will be hell to pay. Not from us. Who cares about us. But most of Wikipedia is pissed off at her. Not to mention that the mainstream press has been following this tory. They haven't reported about this, but they know who she is. And when she comes out as being Durova, it will be a major dirtstorm the likes of which you've never seen. No wonder Angela resigned from this playground. She's serious. (and no wonder she didn't speak directly to Durova).

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:Off hand, [[User:Jeffpw|Jeffpw]] and [[User:Save Us 229|<font color="007FFF">Save_Us</font>]] did an excellent job doing a large chunk of the cleanup, couldn't have been easy. I'm sure many more were involved in the cleanup, as there were ton of links. Hope they come forward.--[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] ([[User talk:Hu12|talk]]) 22:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

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:Off hand, [[User:Jeffpw|Jeffpw]] and [[User:Save Us 229|<font color="007FFF">Save_Us</font>]] did an excellent job doing a large chunk of the cleanup, couldn't have been easy. I'm sure many more were involved in the cleanup portion of this, as there were ton of links. Hope they come forward.--[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] ([[User talk:Hu12|talk]]) 22:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

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:Off hand, [[User:Jeffpw|Jeffpw]] and [[User:Save Us 229|<font color="007FFF">Save_Us</font>]] did an excellent job doing a large chunk of the cleanup, couldn't have been easy. I'm sure many more were involved in the cleanup portion of this, as there were ton of links. Hope they come forward. Others, of course, [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] [[User:A. B.|A. B.]] [[User:Mr.Z-man|<font color="#056366">Mr.</font>]]''[[User talk:Mr.Z-man|<font color="#056625">'''Z-'''</font><font color="#054F66">man</font>]]</font>''.. --[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] ([[User talk:Hu12|talk]]) 22:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

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And when she comes out as being Durova, it will be a major dirtstorm the likes of which you've never seen.

When I compared the contribution histories of Durova and HU12, I came across at least a few occasions when they were editing at the very same times. That doesn't really disprove anything, but it's not typical.

I reckon shared idiosyncrasies of usage to be the most reliable guide of identity. Blind partisanship is a good reason to investigate the possibility, but isn't particularly rare or information-heavy, is consciously motivated and can appear for a number of reasons.

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D[b]urova and HU12, I came across at least a few occasions when they were editing at the very same times. That doesn't really disprove anything, but it's not typical.

I reckon shared idiosyncrasies of usage to be the most reliable guide of identity. Blind partisanship is a good reason to investigate the possibility, but isn't particularly rare or information-heavy, is consciously motivated and can appear for a number of reasons.

Can you clarify if you mean that this would prove similtude, or asimilitude. Sorry, I didn't "get" it.

AND I think I was wrong here. I looked at Koh's diff, which was a "diff", not the "current" so maybe I "jumped the gun", on the "time change" thing. If this was a red-herring, I apologize to all I've concerned with this.

On the other hand, maybe I wasn't wrong. (?)

Can you clarify if you mean that this would prove similtude, or asimilitude. Sorry, I didn't "get" it.

Overlapping series of edits by both accounts, to the point where they're coming in with the same time stamp,would generally indicate two different people, unless someone is deliberately logging bogus counterevidence. For example, if we have a desktop and a laptop, the first on a cable or DSL and the latter connected to a neighbor by wireless, we might wait to save the edits until both are ready, then fire them off at the same time, just so that potential investigators will see the shared time stamp.

I haven't seen enough text from Hu12 to say whether or not he/she writes like Durova.

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Ok, I wasn't sure whether you were pointing out that the shared time stamps meant the person(s) were online at the same time (same) or online at the same time (not).

Hu12 doesn't seem to have much of an online personality, as opposed to Durova's which is very notable.

Ok, I wasn't sure whether you were pointing out that the shared time stamps meant the person(s) were online at the same time (same) or online at the same time (not).

Hu12 doesn't seem to have much of an online personality, as opposed to Durova's which is very notable.

Hu12 edits quite a few articles about stock market issues, financial instruments and SEO issues and it has been suggested in this thread that there was some connection to him/her and the Chicago Stock exchange, where Jimbo started his illustrious career.

So, even if Hu12 keeps a low profile, there's probably something there...I don't think that this is a Durova sock, but they do work together....

Hu12 edits quite a few articles about stock market issues, financial instruments and SEO issues and it has been suggested in this thread

*I* could make many intelligent and insightful edits to articles addressing stock market issues, financial instruments and SEO issues.

That wouldn't make me part of the Chicago exchange.

That wouldn't mean I knew Jimbo when he was there.

The CBOT is a huge world exchange, comprising thousands of people. It's not a small elite team. And this person never necessarily worked there.

It could be anyone editing as Hu12.

I think it might be Jehochman, wanting an admin without his name. Still could be Durova too.

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