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A Timeline of events relating to Carolyn Doran, former COO of the Wikimedia Foundation: Carolyn Bothwell Doran is the daughter of a former US. Intelligence officer : Here is the obit for her father: (IMG:http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/gifs/bothwell.gif) The address of James L. Bothwell in the 1991 Association of Former Intelligence Officers membership directory is 6512 11th Avenue W., Bradenton, FL 34209 20 Feb 1990 ¤ The Washington Post reports on Carolyn Bothwell (Doran)'s "unlawful shooting incident" with her boyfriend, to which she pleaded guilty QUOTE A Herndon woman pleaded guilty yesterday in Fairfax Circuit Court to unlawful wounding of her boyfriend, who was shot once in the chest Aug. 25. Carolyn Bothwell, 27, of the 1100 block of Player Way, said she entered the plea after the prosecution offered to recommend probation. She said she did not want to risk losing custody of her 3-year-old son. Bothwell's attorney, Gerald Bruce Lee, said in court that if the case had gone to trial, the defense had planned to ... 15 Sep 1995 ¤ The Washington Post runs an article about Carolyn Doran (née Bothwell)'s former roommate and testimony that she gave after her roommate's husband's death QUOTE A former roommate of Betancourt's, Sterling resident Carolyn Bothwell, testified yesterday that Betancourt told her in July 1994 that Montague "won't be around in September to worry about." Betancourt's attorney, Gregory Harris, suggested that his client meant that she would be breaking off her relationship with Montague, not that "Cassie was going to do him in." The tapes were recorded at the home of Bothwell, who is a neighbor of Montague's daughter, Janet Hall. Betancourt lived with Bothwell for three months in the spring of 1994. Bothwell testified that she bought a recording device and put it on her telephone to capture threatening phone calls from her former common-law husband. She said Betancourt was with her when she bought the device. Bothwell said she gave the tapes to investigators after she found out about Montague's death. Harris suggested that Bothwell, who has a pending credit card forgery case in Loudoun , was trying to curry favor with prosecutors with her testimony. Bothwell denied that. "I had enough to lose coming up here," she said. "I had nothing to gain." TheCustomOfLife 05:21, 14 December 2007 (UTC) The court transcript for this case is here. An except from the proceedings : QUOTE Carolyn Bothwell, a friend of Hall's, assisted the police investigation by wearing a concealed recording device on six different occasions in a futile attempt to obtain incriminating statements from appellant. Bothwell testified that she, already a convicted felon, was the target of a felony prosecution in Loudoun County at the time of appellant's trial but that her case had been continued. She further testified that she had reached no agreement with the Loudoun County prosecutor's office regarding the effect her cooperation in appellant's case might have on her own prosecution. 04 Nov 1999 ¤ Sean H. Doran dies in Caïman Islands on his honeymoon with his recently married wife Carolyn Bothwell ?? Mar 2006 ¤ Carolyn Doran moves from Washington D. C. to Saint Petersberg Florida to be closer to the WMF offices 22 May, 2006 ¤ Seand59 (Carolyn Doran's first WP account name, see below) solicited a bid to ship her Tuscan dining room chairs from Herndon VA to St. Petersburg FL. ?? Sep 2006 ¤ Carolyn Doran begins work as "bookkeeper" at the WMF Florida offices. 02 Oct 2006 ¤ Information about adding an office assistant from a "temporary agency" is added to the WMF current staff article. 20 Nov 2006 ¤ Brad Patrick adds Carolyn Doran's name to the WMF staff page as "book keeper in the Florida office (since September 2006) 5 Dec 2006 ¤ The account Seand59 is established. User:Seand59 makes their first edit, removing contact information to the European Agency for Safety and Health<==This information is now attached to the account of User:Carolyn-WMF per Danny Wool's 15 Jan 2007 account rename. 8 Dec 2006 ¤ Carolyn Doran's is added to the WMF foundation article in Wikipedia as "bookkeeper". 09 Jan 2007 ¤ Carolyn Doran adds summaries of WMF Income summary (PDF) and WMF expense summary (PDF) 15 Jan 2007 ¤ As Seand59, Carolyn Doran removes her title of "bookkeeper" from the Wikimedia Foundation article in Wikipedia Again as User:Seand59, She edits the Free Republic article, taking out a long passage of this contraversial article. The account was then blocked by User:Prodego for "impersonating WMF staff. Danny moves the Username Seand59 to User.Carolyn-WMF 24 Jan 2007 ¤ WMF board resolution naming Carolyn Doran COO 27 Jan 2007 ¤ Florence Devouart publicly presents Carolyn Doran as COO and gives some information about her position. 02 Feb 2007 ¤ Essjay posts he provided all his real life information to Jimbo Wales and Angela Beasley, and then the same information to Brad Patrick but does not say when this occurred. 03 Feb 2007 ¤ Florence Devouard makes a Foundation Annoucement that Brad Patrick would be resuming his role as General Counsel exclusively after serving as Interim Executive Director and to now "focus on developing the role of General Counsel, and addressing a backlog of complex legal questions the Foundation faces moving forward." 22 Feb 2007 ¤ Danny Wool adds Carolyn Doran's photo to the WMF staff page. 27 Feb 2007 ¤ Carolyn Doran removes Brad Patrick's two lead paragraphs in the WMF staff page and put him in the regular "staff section" with only two lines and no photo. 20 Mar 2007 ¤ Former trusty side-kick Danny Wool removed his name from the list of current WMF staff. 22 Mar 2007 ¤ Former GC Brad Patrick announced his resignation. 23 Mar 2007 ¤ Here is the WMF's most recent Form-990, which every 501c must file with the IRS (which is the least they can do since they don't pay taxes). Go to page 8, where you'll see that Carolyn Doran signed it on behalf of the WMF on 3/23/07. 20 May 2007 ¤ Carolyn Doran arrested for 3rd offense of DUI. 1-3 Jun 2007 ¤ Carolyn Doran attends a WMF board meeting in Amsterdam. Sue Gardner and Mike Godwin are also in attendence Upon her return, Carolyn Doran is stopped by US Immigration services because her travel is in violation of her parole for the 3rd DUI offense. 12 Jun 2007 ¤ The Wikimedia Foundation passes a new audit charter. 04 Jul 2007 ¤ The WMF board hires Sue Gardner as "management consultant". The boards passes another resolution on Carolyn Doren, presumably terminating her employment 10 Aug 2007 ¤ Carolyn Doran arrested for 4th DUI and hit and run 14 Sep, 2007 ¤ Florence Devouard confirms that Carolyn Doran has left WMF, but that WMF cannot discuss the matter because they have signed a non-disclosure agreement. Carolyn Doran is free to discuss this, however 17 Sep 2007 ¤ WMF foundations audit begins, according to Florence Devouard. 19 Nov 2007 ¤ Florence Devouard announces publicly that the audit is not completed, "but will be by the end of the calender year (hopefully". 14 Dec 2007 ¤ Jimbo Wales announces that if any money is missing after the audit, he will pay for it out of his own pocket. QUOTE :::I will go even further. If the audit uncovers any evidence of theft, I will personally donate out of my own pocket to cover whatever is missing. I feel pretty confident doing that even though the audit is still underway.--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] ([[User talk:Jimbo Wales#top|talk]]) 21:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC) Jimbo Wales then sums up his view of the incident: QUOTE QUOTE Later that day, Florence Devouart admits that WMF did not do any background checks on their employees and that this situation was not the responsibility of the board, but of Brad Patrick in his role as CEO. QUOTE I would like to remind everyone here that we are still a very small organization, despite taking care of very large and well known projects. As such, staff is limited. Unless I am mistaken, when Carolyn started working for us, the only old-staff members of WMF were Danny, Brion, Tim and Brad. In fall, Carolyn and Barbara were added. Brad was ED at that time. The board hires the ED and has authority over the ED. Then the ED has authority over all staff members (and he is the one who hires them). In fall 2006, we did not perform criminal background checks afaik. 15 Sep 07 ¤ Jimbo Wales pledges for a second time (on the Foundation-l mailing list) that he will personally cover any losses in the case of fraud. QUOTE I have decided to get out in front of the issue by pledging to cover, personally, any losses due to theft if that turns up in the audit. I do not think that will come to anything, but I stand ready to make sure that it does. It is the only thing I know of that I can do to help at this point in reassuring everyone that this is a non-story in the end. In a further quote, Jimbo says: QUOTE If you ever hear of anything like this again, please do not make the "bad faith" assumption that it is being "hushed up". Assume that I would be outraged if I knew, and come and tell me. 19 Dec 2007 ¤ The story is broken in the Tampa Tribune 21 Dec 2007 ¤ The story is picked up by the Associated Press' Brian Bergstein, in a great deal of publications including :
QUOTE WP:BLP1E There is no problem with covering the situation in appropriate places, but normal consensus about BLP's is that we don't have articles about people who have had some new coverage only due to a single negative event. It may seem like Wikipedia is the center of the universe, but it actually isn't. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) Random sample found by searching in google for "coo scandal": http://www.cfo.com/article.cfm/7813032 A brief search of Wikipedia shows that in this case of a fraud alleged by the SEC to have involved $8.2 million profit to the CFO and COO of this company, we have nothing on either person, nor on the company, nor on the scandal. http://www.cnet.com/8301-13555_1-9805001-34.html This story talks about the same event as a $200 million fraud. The CEO, about whom we do not have an article, is charged. I am not arguing that we should or should not have an article on this other case (but please let's not have my use of this example trigger an idiotic war about it!). I am just arguing that there is absolutely no way in hell we would have an article in the case of Carolyn Doran, were it not for Wikipedia navel-gazing. There was no fraud (that we know of), nothing bad happened to us (that we know of), it is just an embarassment and for this poor woman, her rather sad life story is now in the Associated Press. But this whole thing is still amply covered by BLP1E and non-Wikipedia precedent and tradition. However, another poster brings up the repercussions this could cause surrounding "biographies of living persons" if this is not covered in Wikipedia : QUOTE I could not agree more. Indeed all mention of this incident can probably be expunged from wikipedia in about twelve months time. However, and this is the catch 22, if our concern is that a "poor woman with a sad life story" be left alone then trying to prevent a bio may be completely counterproductive. As mush as I hate it, if someone in the community forces the issue (and I hope they don't), our only means for preventing such bio (and enforcing BLP1E, is either to have a wiki-drama and a high profile DRV or Jimmy publicly intervening. The is the real danger that either scenario will end up in another press run for trash like the Register. Doc at the same time, The Lyndon Larouche foundation also posts a piece on the Carolyn Doran sitauation. This post has been edited by the fieryangel: |
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14 Dec 2007 ¤ Jimbo Wales announces that if any money is missing after the audit, he will pay for it out of his own pocket. QUOTE :::I will go even further. If the audit uncovers any evidence of theft, I will personally donate out of my own pocket to cover whatever is missing. I feel pretty confident doing that even though the audit is still underway.--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] ([[User talk:Jimbo Wales#top|talk]]) 21:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC) WHAT? QUOTE :::I will go even further. If the audit uncovers any evidence of theft, I will personally donate out of my own pocket to cover whatever is missing. I feel pretty confident doing that even though the audit is still underway.--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] ([[User talk:Jimbo Wales#top|talk]]) 21:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC) Holy Mother of God. (excuse me but) You just don't say things like this. EVER. EVER. EVER. If fraud was perpetrated at your organization, you say nothing until it is determined, you release the information, and speak solemn words. You don't give no information, and offer to rebate it. Why should he pay for fraud? That's creeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy. Something must be going terribly, terribly, terribly wrong. Between this and the "panic" release of Carl Hewitt's name to the press (a precedent - Wikipedia has never leaked names to the press before - it was always the 'victim' complaining to the press), something is very, very, very wrong in Jimboland. This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey: |
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I'm sure next Register article will say,
"I will go even further. If the audit uncovers any evidence of theft, I will personally donate out of my own pocket to cover whatever is missing. I feel pretty confident doing that even though the audit is still underway. -- Jimbo Wales" Ben Kovitz and Larry Sanger had a wonderful idea, that Jimbo's "leadership" and his gang of criminals and sycophants are driving into the ground. How long until the community formally tries to oust either Jimbo (who has no recourse if they actually do it, as he doesn't 'own' Wikipedia in any legal sense) and/or his Arbitration Committee? By the end of 2008, I'd say. |
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How long until the community formally tries to oust either Jimbo (who has no recourse if they actually do it, as he doesn't 'own' Wikipedia in any legal sense) and/or his Arbitration Committee? By the end of 2008, I'd say. I don't see it happening that soon without the help of the foundation board or the public revelation of him participating in criminal activity. He may not legally own Wikipedia, but he has enough friends with root access to the servers that he effectively controls it. The board owns Wikipedia. They can legally take control away from Jimbo, but they don't seem to want to. A grassroots takeover would probably take more than a year. And in case you didn't catch it, apparently Jimbo has hired a psychologist to help him and his fellow |
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