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SenseMaker Illustration of Muhammad
Aloft From watching AN/I recently, probably many are aw... Miltopia Not really. To me it seems more informative, wher... SenseMaker Not really. To me it seems more informative, wher... dtobias Under NPOV, the views of a particular religious gr... GlassBeadGame Under NPOV, the views of a particular religious g... Moulton The inability to engage in voluntary restraint is ... One Voluntarily refraining from publishing images off... SenseMaker [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='70304' date='Fr... One [quote name='One' post='70318' date='Fri 28th Dec... Miltopia You can't really "troll" an entire r... wikiwhistle You can't really "troll" an entire ... SenseMaker You can't really "troll" an entire... wikiwhistle Instead of the term "trolling", it may... SenseMaker Instead of the term "trolling", it may b... UseOnceAndDestroy You can't really "troll" an entire... Derktar [quote name='wikiwhistle' post='70312' date='Fri ... UseOnceAndDestroy Ah UseOnceAndDestroy, you finally speak, welcome ... wikiwhistle The argument around this image seems to be more a... Proabivouac The underlying problem is that most Muslims aren... SenseMaker The underlying problem is that most Muslims aren... LamontStormstar There are some websites that go and try to display... GlassBeadGame There are some websites that go and try to displa... LamontStormstar There are some websites that go and try to displ... SenseMaker [quote name='GlarseBeadGame' post='70342' date='Fr... GlassBeadGame [quote name='GlarseBeadGame' post='70342' date='F... SenseMaker [quote name='LamontStormstar' post='70345' date='F... Proabivouac There are some websites that go and try to displ... GlassBeadGame [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='70342' date='Sa... LamontStormstar This is more insulting http://en.wikipedia.org/wi... Proabivouac This is more insulting http://en.wikipedia.org/w... SenseMaker [quote name='LamontStormstar' post='70351' date='S... LamontStormstar [quote name='LamontStormstar' post='70351' date='... msharma [quote name='LamontStormstar' post='70351' date='... LamontStormstar Wikipedia also says Muhammed was polygamous like t... GlassBeadGame Wikipedia also says Muhammed was polygamous like ... everyking Just hide the images behind links. That's the ... Amarkov I don't understand why this is a problem. The ... SenseMaker I don't understand why this is a problem. The... Amarkov I don't understand why this is a problem. Th... Miltopia If depictions of Muhammad come down, Piss Christ h... Poetlister Given that Moslems revere Jesus as a prophet, what... GlassBeadGame Given that Moslems revere Jesus as a prophet, wha... LamontStormstar Given that Moslems revere Jesus as a prophet, wha... Proabivouac From watching AN/I recently, probably many are aw... SenseMaker has been blocked indefinitely: http://en.wikipedi... jorge I haven't followed Farazilu extensively, but ... Proabivouac "Not certain myself how these tie together... guy Bad move. Now he can tell the World that he was b... Moulton I think the word you are looking for is sensibilit... guy I think the word you are looking for is [i]sensib... dtobias Why is it "socially responsible" to give... jorge Why is it "socially responsible" to giv... Disillusioned Lackey Why is it "socially responsible" to giv... GlassBeadGame For Wikipedia's sake, it was best to take t... Disillusioned Lackey More importantly for the future of collaborative ... Proabivouac They have made the values and prejudices of their... Disillusioned Lackey They have made the values and prejudices of thei... SenseMaker [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='70536' date='Sat... SenseMaker I don't have issue with freedom of expression.... GlassBeadGame Why is it "socially responsible" to giv... Nathan Yes, look at the undo pressure these people are a... Proabivouac In the interests of bringing this thread back on-t... Yehudi I find many pictures on WP offensive, the pornogra... cyofee Everything about cheese is offensive to me. If Wik... dtobias Everything about cheese is offensive to me. If Wi... cyofee Everything about cheese is offensive to me. If W... dtobias I don't care about your opinion. I'm just... thekohser I don't care about your opinion. I'm jus... Disillusioned Lackey I don't care about your opinion. I'm just ... Moulton Then there are the martyrs who bear witness to the... The Joy When I took a world religions class in college, I ... Moulton The World Book Encyclopedia does not have a pictur... Moulton I'll take "Or Else" for twenty Quatl... GlassBeadGame The Petition now has 21,734 signatures. GlassBeadGame The petition is currently at 22,750 signature. Th... jorge Hmm I guess is we don't get a lot of read... GlassBeadGame Hmm I guess is we don't get a lot of rea... Proabivouac This Farazilu sounds a little fake to me - the mi... jorge [quote name='jorge' post='71277' date='Tue 1st Ja... GlassBeadGame [quote name='jorge' post='71277' date='Tue 1st J... Disillusioned Lackey [quote name='Proabivouac' post='71322' date='Wed ... Disillusioned Lackey [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='71275' date='Tu... Disillusioned Lackey I don't think that simple Wikipedians realiz... jorge This [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:C... Disillusioned Lackey I was saying the language that Farazilu used seem... jorge Revealing your lack of focus on the topic.... th... Proabivouac "The good will and patience demonstrated by ... Herschelkrustofsky Nota bene: I have taken a considerable number of p... Moulton I can has arbitration? Moulton Some movements require leadership -- at least at f... GlassBeadGame The petition now has more than 25,000 signature (... Selina Are we going to be getting a count every few thous... GlassBeadGame Are we going to be getting a count every few thou... Selina Are we going to be getting a count every few tho... Proabivouac Selina, I don't have a problem with you includ... GlassBeadGame [quote name='msharma' post='71735' date='Fri 4th ... guy This reminds me of when the Church Times ran a pol... Proabivouac Hey guys, look at this: http://fa.wikipedia.org/w... msharma Hey guys, look at this: http://fa.wikipedia.org/... Selina fine I removed it, I was just trying to help - the... Proabivouac fine I removed it, I was just trying to help - th... Moulton I think he is just saying that an editor's not... jorge The reason a depiction is included in the Farsi wi... Yehudi You have to appreciate that in Islam, followers of... GlassBeadGame You have to appreciate that in Islam, followers o... guy You have to appreciate that in Islam, followers ... GlassBeadGame [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='72348' date='Mo... cyofee Mainstream scholars are afraid of their life, an... GlassBeadGame Mainstream scholars are afraid of their life, a... cyofee If you want me to, I could write a bot that will g... GlassBeadGame If you want me to, I could write a bot that will ... cyofee Touché. You've caught me on this one, but... GlassBeadGame Touché. You've caught me on this one, bu... Sxeptomaniac Here's an issue, though: both the images in th... GlassBeadGame Here's an issue, though: both the images in t... Amarkov The thing is, their being offended isn't a big... GlassBeadGame The thing is, their being offended isn't a bi... Amarkov I agree with the general principle that there exis... ala101 That's coz there are Arabs who cannot express... Amarkov That's coz there are Arabs who cannot expres... dtobias Stop framing it as "one side wants to respec... Kato [quote name='Amarkov' post='73340' date='Sat 12th... Proabivouac That's coz there are Arabs who cannot expres... Moulton The desire for honor, dignity, and respect is a co... Yehudi Don't you understand the way Wikipedia works? ... Moulton Wikipedia politics works just like meatspace polit... Yehudi In real life, while there is an offence of conspir... Moulton Indeed. The age of Crusades, Genocides, and Ethni... Disillusioned Lackey Indeed. The age of Crusades, Genocides, and Ethn... Disillusioned Lackey Genocide is in the past? Hmroo? [img]http://www.... Disillusioned Lackey What the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTU... Moulton Meanwhile, today on NPR's This American Life, ... Disillusioned Lackey Meanwhile, today on NPR's This American Life,... Moulton What?!? You mean I'm mistaken?!? Do y... Moulton Are you perplexed? jorge Are you perplexed? Anyone that thought that Moul... Disillusioned Lackey Are you perplexed? Completely lost in the wilde... Moulton Don't be silly. jorge Don't be silly. OK, a little stubbing of toe... GlassBeadGame I think the SCOTUS incident is on point and comple... Moulton Let's not stub our silly toes tripping over th... Moulton It's a great adventure, eh? Ben One is the earliest known image of the subject of ... Kato [quote name='Proabivouac' post='74617' date='Mon ... Ben I'm being serious here, Kato. Maybe you can jo... LamontStormstar Yes. The earliest known photograph of Mohammad wa... Proabivouac One is the earliest known image of the subject of... Ben Are you asking a rhetorical question? Disillusioned Lackey [quote name='Proabivouac' post='75126' date='Thu ... Disillusioned Lackey
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44,083 are waiting to talk about Wikipedia, a la... Ben Newsflash: It is obvious--to everyone except thos... Proabivouac Newsflash: It is obvious--to everyone except tho... Ben In your opinion, is that the only reason why non-... Proabivouac [quote name='Proabivouac' post='75339' date='Thu ... Ben You need me to spell out the fact that a museum p... Disillusioned Lackey Newsflash: It is obvious--to everyone except tho... Ben It is my opinion of what people in general would... Disillusioned Lackey I'd agree it's hypocrisy, but I also did ... dogbiscuit If the goal is to avoid controversy and hurt fee... Proabivouac It seems the only reason they have contemplated t... dogbiscuit It seems the only reason they have contemplated ... Proabivouac I mean, what harm does it do if someone does not ... dogbiscuit So in part, the question is, what is Wikipedia, a... Proabivouac If it were a genuine scholarly work then I would ... Disillusioned Lackey Can we not distinguish between real harm (reputat... msharma No, I asked you to back up what you've said o... Proabivouac You're right, that is absurd. Also irreleva... msharma You're right, that is absurd. Also irrelev... Proabivouac No, its a single culture at a single moment in ti... Disillusioned Lackey This is really tiresome. It is a debating society... msharma No, it merely implies that this is how he was rep... Proabivouac Listen, its clear to me and to absolutely everyon... msharma Listen, its clear to me and to absolutely everyo... Proabivouac Robert Spencer and his under-educated ilk do not... Disillusioned Lackey The images say "This is what Muhammad actual... Proabivouac Oh, wait, I get it, you're objecting to my cho... Moulton I'd rather see the Supreme Court honor James G... GlassBeadGame I don't think any 'cult of the amateur... Ben "This is the earliest known image of Thor, th... Disillusioned Lackey I don't think any 'cult of the amateur... Proabivouac I don't think any 'cult of the amateur... Disillusioned Lackey I don't think of it as a game. It's a ve... Moulton WP doesn't not provide a functional process fo... GlassBeadGame Neither did the Spanish Inquisition. Cue 15 yea... Moulton The Klingon Ethic (Death Before Dishonor) is not e... LamontStormstar The Klingon Ethic (Death Before Dishonor) is not ... Moulton The first written appearance of the proverb ... Moulton I prefer the Mel Brooks song and dance number cele... Cedric I prefer the Mel Brooks song and dance number cel... Moulton Wikipedia is not in business to not upset people. ... Amarkov It's not that sinister, I don't think. Wik... Proabivouac They certainly have a right to have the images up... Amarkov When you're a small site, you can afford to do... Moulton As far as theories of mind go, I imagine it's ... Kato There is quite a thoughtful blog post about this h... GlassBeadGame There is quite a thoughtful blog post about this ... Proabivouac There is quite a thoughtful blog post about this ... Proabivouac Why was Rodinson's book banned? Because, as a... Disillusioned Lackey The key point.......A neutral treatment of Muhamm... Proabivouac much less secular treatments of Muhammad and Isl... Disillusioned Lackey [quote name='Disillusioned Lackey' post='77017' d... Proabivouac But why not give the pictures a rest. The U.S. S... Disillusioned Lackey But why not give the pictures a rest. The U.S. ... Proabivouac There's a reason why the Islamic world isn... Moulton Compare how Muslims feel about pictures of the Pro... Kato Compare how Muslims feel about pictures of the Pr... GlassBeadGame Compare how Muslims feel about pictures of the Pr... Proabivouac In a politicized culture, those in power can outl... Moulton Actually, it was both. Greg decided he didn't ... guy Actually, it was both. Greg decided he didn't... Amarkov Illustrations of Muhammad are not, at all, analago... Disillusioned Lackey Illustrations of Muhammad are not, at all, analag... Amarkov [quote name='Amarkov' post='77056' date='Sun 3rd ... Kato You ignored my point. Christians don't get to... GlassBeadGame Illustrations of Muhammad are not, at [i]all, ana... Proabivouac Moulton was talking about how the depiction made ... Disillusioned Lackey [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='77108' date='Mo... Moulton The feelings to compare are not those of the explo... Amarkov Okay, Christians shouldn't get the power to ba... Kato Okay, Christians [i]shouldn't get the power t... Sxeptomaniac Okay, Christians [i]shouldn't get the power ... Kato Wiki-apologist Ben Yates comments on this on his b... wikipediablog Wiki-apologist Ben Yates comments on this on his ... Kato Presumably I'm doing something right. Welcom... Moulton Notice how so much of the liminal social drama rev... Moulton Children don't learn from teachers they don... Disillusioned Lackey Children don't learn from teachers they don... 1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
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