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Mantanmoreland is Gary, 3
Mantanmoreland isn't Gary, 0

Patrick Byrne, Juddster, and Gary all say that Gary = MM

That latter is just very inconsistent in what he tells whom, lol.

That is all, carry on with the show on WP, folks. Remember, they know more than you do about this.

And G-dett's Cormac McCarthian yarn of the Wikipedia Tombstoner is the most brilliant prose I've yet to be privileged to read on any WP Tawk page.

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Where does JzG get off continually making the straw-man argument that I supposedly don't believe stalking or harassment is ever a genuine problem? In my essay responding to his, I specifically state that it is something that really exists, but also that it has often been blown way out of proportion in some cases for political purposes, and redefined in ways that make perfectly innocent activity be considered cases of "harassment".
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QUOTE(dtobias @ Mon 18th February 2008, 12:13pm) *

Where does JzG get off continually making the straw-man argument that I supposedly don't believe stalking or harassment is ever a genuine problem?
What else can he do? He can't credibly claim that MM isn't Weiss or Samiharris anymore, and he is unable to admit that he was wrong. He has nothing left but his nonsensical ranting and attacks on other people. He has to defend Wikipedia against... something, anything.

I wonder what he will have left when Wikipedia finally decides to dispense with his presence?

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QUOTE(Aloft @ Mon 18th February 2008, 2:02pm) *

What else can he do? He can't credibly claim that MM isn't Weiss or Samiharris anymore, and he is unable to admit that he was wrong. He has nothing left but his nonsensical ranting and attacks on other people. He has to defend Wikipedia against... something, anything.

I wonder what he will have left when Wikipedia finally decides to dispense with his presence?


I hear that Usenet is a great venue for people like him!
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 18th February 2008, 7:49pm) *


I hear that Usenet is a great venue for people like him!


no, he tried that right before he started tomstonering on wp, and they ran him and his socks off a usenet group too. i'm not kidding.
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QUOTE(Piperdown @ Mon 18th February 2008, 12:53pm) *

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I hear that Usenet is a great venue for people like him!


no, he tried that right before he started tomstonering on wp, and they ran him and his socks off a usenet group too. i'm not kidding.

Not quite, after ten years of posting, he made a Tomstoner-esque slipup. When questioned he just disappeared, never to be seen again on the Uselessnet.

QUOTE(Proabivouac @ Mon 18th February 2008, 12:51pm) *

Thanks to Guy's comments, so is RfArb/Mantanmoreland (although I'd guess that Bagley and Byrne are happy enough to get a hearing.) When, if ever, will "attack sites" proponents get that keeping him around discredits their position far more than any help he can offer? It doesn't mean no attacks and outings, but just a list of people who can be (indeed should be) attacked and outed, and a list of those who can't be. Nice if you're on that second list, I suppose, but what is there here for anybody else to believe in?

Your coalition is crumbling because you won't walk the walk.

And it was attacks on fellow Wikipedian's too. He had articles on User:Rfwoolf and User:Atren.

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Oh crap. So Guy Chapman has been doing this kind of thing on the internet for years? And still keeps whole pages on people he's been in dispute with on Usenet?
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