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TimidGuy is appealing his ban, which was executed by Jimbo in a GodKingly fashion at the request of Will Beback, who sent Jimbo a private email in which he alleged that TG was a paid advocate for the Transcendental Meditators. This situation raises numerous questions.

1. TG and WB have been going at if for a while as WP:ADVOCATES on opposing sides of the Transcendental Meditation issue. For argument's sake, let's assume that Will's allegations are correct, and TG is a paid advocate for TM. Does that make his editing more disruptive than that of Will, acting as an unpaid advocate against TM? Will's fanaticism on the topic is well known, and that fact that he is presumably doing it without compensation makes him possibly the more disruptive of the two, because he is so consumed with zeal to expose and discredit the meditators (misusing Wikipedia as a soapbox for that purpose), that he does it for free.

2. If Will has in fact acquired private information about TG's pay stubs and what not, is that not WP:WIKIHOUNDING?

3. How does WP:COI come into play when allegations are made based on evidence that is not in the public domain? Doesn't such an allegation axiomatically violate WP:OUTING?

The Arbs are already neck-deep in conundra over this. It should be interesting to see how it plays out. My personal take on it causes me to ask this: why is Will Beback still allowed to be editor, let alone an admin?
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So which of the remaining monkeys has been lined up to deliver the Coup de Grâce?
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QUOTE(lilburne @ Sat 25th February 2012, 2:53pm) *

So which of the remaining monkeys has been lined up to deliver the Coup de Grâce?


The arbs who have yet to vote are

AGK
NYBrad
Elen
David Fuchs
Hersfold
Coren

Actually, I'm not sure about Coren and AGK since they're nowhere on that page. Coren is listed as an arbitrator pro tempore. On the other hand Risker is listed as "Inactive" but she voted in some the earlier proposals. AGK is not on the page either. So maybe it's the other four + Risker, who, I'm guessing is going to try and stay "inactive" for as long as possible.

It must suck to be the "pivotal voter". I betcha all of them are thinking of ways they could recuse this late in the game. The "equilbrium" now is to wait for another person to vote first, since at that point your vote doesn't matter and if it's ever thrown in your face in the future you can point that out.

So, barring a brave soul, I think we're gonna hafta wait for that next vote for awhile (and I expect there will be at least one more "Oppose" or "Abstain" (under some sketchy reason) before a "Support", if any, votes are cast.

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QUOTE(radek @ Sat 25th February 2012, 4:14pm) *
Coren is listed as an arbitrator pro tempore.
I get a little giggle every time the Arbs throw in a bit of courtroom Latin to make themselves seem more official. The WMF should provide powdered wigs, assuming that Jimmy has a friend in the wig-making biz.

QUOTE(iii @ Sat 25th February 2012, 7:48pm) *

QUOTE(Cla68 @ Sat 25th February 2012, 7:39pm) *

I wasn't expecting the indef ban to pass, but it now has the required eight votes. It's still not quite passing yet, however, since John Vandenberg is making it his second choice. I won't opine on it until the case officially closes, which might be in about 24-hours from now.

It looks like it will pass on the basis of the moral outrage of the new crowd. Still, it amazes me how many are willing to say that Jimbo was the victim in their justifications!

It's marked as passed in the motion to close.

Jimmy actually was a victim, but only because he's an easy mark for the cabalists.
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 26th February 2012, 11:08am) *

QUOTE(radek @ Sat 25th February 2012, 4:14pm) *
Coren is listed as an arbitrator pro tempore.
I get a little giggle every time the Arbs throw in a bit of courtroom Latin to make themselves seem more official. The WMF should provide powdered wigs, assuming that Jimmy has a friend in the wig-making biz.




Ya think MyWigiBiz might be a kewl name?

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QUOTE(lilburne @ Sun 26th February 2012, 3:53pm) *

QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 26th February 2012, 11:08am) *

QUOTE(radek @ Sat 25th February 2012, 4:14pm) *
Coren is listed as an arbitrator pro tempore.
I get a little giggle every time the Arbs throw in a bit of courtroom Latin to make themselves seem more official. The WMF should provide powdered wigs, assuming that Jimmy has a friend in the wig-making biz.




Ya think MyWigiBiz might be a kewl name?

I think myGiggityGiggityBiz is the way to go.
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