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The real issue here is not the ID editors but rather those attacking them at every turn and their campaign against them being run by Sceptre, Cla68, LaraLove, Moulton, User:B, etc. at Wikipedia Review. This is a topic worthy of the Arbitration Committee's time.

Sceptre's request here is not all it appears. Immediately after filling this RFRA Sceptre started a thread at Wikipedia Review with the title "Attention ID editors, a Category 3 shitstorm is approaching..." [25] Note the fact that Moulton is all over Sceptre's thread. Who else here supporting Sceptre's RFAR is there attacking the same "ID editors"? Cla68, Dihydrogen Monoxide (as Giggy), User:B, Lar, LaraLove (as LaraHate), all discussing their plan of attack: "Sceptre, you should have drafted an RfC first. There are plenty of people who could help you out with it and co-certify it with you." from Cla68[26] for example.

Sceptre's RFAR is simply more disruption coming from Wikipedia Review regulars harassing Wikipedia editors they mean to drive off the project. No doubt much of Sceptre's motivation fiing this was due to FeloniousMonk's RFAR filing on Cla68's harassment of others. The Arbitration Committee shouldn't let Wikipedia Review editors use RFAR as another channel for harassing Wikipedians, but at the same time the behavior of Sceptre and the gang needs to be looked at and addressed before they drive valued, productive contributors off Wikipedia for good: We've already lost Raymond Arritt over this crew's latest demarche. Odd nature (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
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Sceptre's RFAR is simply more disruption coming from Wikipedia Review regulars harassing Wikipedia editors they mean to drive off the project. No doubt much of Sceptre's motivation fiing this was due to FeloniousMonk's RFAR filing on Cla68's harassment of others. The Arbitration Committee shouldn't let Wikipedia Review editors use RFAR as another channel for harassing Wikipedians...Odd nature (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

COMMENT: Shoot, no! The Cabal already has its own backchannel for that (as admitted by Jimbo in his chatlogs to Rachel) and no others must be permitted. Besides, you also can also see in those logs what Jimbo wrote to Rachel about WR (yes, that's us), in the very same chat. He fears us. There are some nuts on WR, according to Jimbo! Who might think he has a conflict of interest altering facts about a stalking conviction, in a bio of his girlfriend (Wink, wink, LOL), and would use it against him. Poor thing. Later, he found out what stalking by this woman was like. POOR thing.

But again, you say, we don't want WR being used as a com channel to "harrass" Wikipedians. Even if it's for some screwup, like Jimbo's screwing up! Or anything else! It's just none of our business at WR! How dare we?

Well, Odd Nature, this one's for you: (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif) I dare.

You know, if I was even 10% as perverted as Jimbo and Rachel, I'd be using my Mac webcam to take pictures of me doing something nasty to myself with a vegetable. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif)

But actually, I'm a reasonable sort of guy, who's gotten beyond notebook-wanking. Unlike your sole founder (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)

I'm interested in ultimately improving Wikipedia as a general project, though I hate to see it used as a Jimbo-fiefdom. And, like almost everybody here at WR, that includes leveling instructive, constructive, and occassionally destructive criticism at WP. And you know what? If you don't like it, then (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)

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I'm interested in ultimately improving Wikipedia as a general project, though I hate to see it used as a Jimbo-fiefdom. And, like almost everybody here at WR, that includes leveling instructive, constructive, and occasionally destructive criticism at WP. And you know what? If you don't like it, then (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)


Constructive criticism is for those who are open to change.

The last 8 years proves that it's totally wasted on Wikipediots.

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QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Thu 5th June 2008, 3:22am) *

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Wed 4th June 2008, 11:13pm) *

I'm interested in ultimately improving Wikipedia as a general project, though I hate to see it used as a Jimbo-fiefdom. And, like almost everybody here at WR, that includes leveling instructive, constructive, and occasionally destructive criticism at WP. And you know what? If you don't like it, then (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)


Constructive criticism is for those who are open to change.

The last 8 years proves that it's totally wasted on Wikipediots.

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Oh, there are wiki-mucki-mucks of various rank, who read here. Some who I'm sure we don't even know about. Example: Jimbo read, or he wouldn't have been feeling us, breathing down his neck, while he was cyber-sex-chatting to Rachel. Which, when you think about it, might have been one of our better coups. Think about it: here's Jimbo trying to get laid, and all he can think about is what the folks at WR will say if they find out! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) That must've required an extra Viagra to put the starch back in the original banhammer. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/happy.gif)

So, anyway, WP will change eventually. And the ideas we bring up here, will reappear after they've been planted in somebody's mind, rejected, revisited, reworked, and finally (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ph34r.gif) reborn as their very own ideas for how to improve Wikipedia!

No, WR won't get credit. Duh. But even if we don't, I'd still like to see WP improved into something resembling mankind's Encyclopedia Galactica, just for the hell of it. You gotta start somewhere. The journey of 1000 miles begins with a single off the cuff idea, passed on to another guy, who was working for a third guy who was mainly into computer pics of women's titties. That's the universe we live in. Hydrogen-->goo-->zoo-->you. Weird, but I didn't make the rules for this universe! Stuff happens here! Watch, and be amazed.

Jon, with all wuv (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wub.gif) , you seem to be a little short of amazement these days. Did somebody sneak up and pour a Pixiestick of powder into your piehole? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)
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