THE 2ND SUPER SECRET LIST (sent to me by name-withheld-by-request), I got this via a verifiable WP source just now - JzG's secret list Options

I've received this information from a verified Wikipedia editor. No, I'm not going to say if the person is an admin or not. I'm not saying anything about the person, other than that they said, "please, someone needs this to get out for the good of the project". Nuff said.

Yes, I checked to be sure it isn't a crank. I'm not stupid. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)

I don't know why they sent it to me. I've never spoken to the person before. But I intend to honor their trust.

Do with it what you will. Use it, ignore it, badmouth it. I didn't write it. I don't have a dog in this fight, really...

...beyond my normal disrespect for shady practices, of which this is sadly indicative of ubiquitousness. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif)

Super Secret List No. 2 (a la JzG)

1. Cary Bass
2. Durova
3. FloNight
4. Gnangarra
5. Herby
6. Jonathan Hochman
7. JzG
8. Lar
9. Matthew Brown
10. Sarah Ewart
11. SlimVirgin

Please don't ask me who sent it. If someone at Wikipedia has serious concerns about such things, then tell me to whom the person who sent it to me should report, without negative ramifications. Then I will tell THEM to contact that person THEMSELVES.

I will not "out" the person. To anyone. Ever. Capiche? Thanks. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

NOTE: This message has no relation to the "Kelly Martin's message of non-membership on soopersekrit lists"to about 24 hours ago. Wow - I am getting secret missives left and right these days! Makes me feel like Double-oh-DL, aka, 00DL (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey:

Jimbo was on the Wikia "cyberstalking" list that was organized by Slim, from day one. However, JzG implies that Jimbo knew about this JzG "investigations list," and certainly Jimbo is comfortable with the idea behind it. The Wikia list was to discuss cyberstalking. The investigations list was designed to attack. It's an "attack list" or a BADLIST, if you will. No problem for Jimbo:

Missed Opportunities to have avoided the Durova Case
Jimmy Wales jwales at wikia.com
Tue Nov 27 18:01:27 UTC 2007

The cyberstalking list is in no way problematic.

I know nothing about any "investigations list" and can't comment. But in general, a list for investigations does not strike me as particularly problematic at all. It could be a bad thing, depending on what is meant, but the name itself does not automatically mean badness.

A good investigations list would be a quiet place where users could collect information and ask questions.

"Say, this person looks like a sockpuppet..."

"No, not really, check this out..."

"Oh, ok."

Nothing wrong with that, and in fact we need more of it. (IRC serves this function quite usefully in many cases.)

--Jimbo

But why quibble over which list is which, and who was on them? Just ban them all, starting with Jimbo. Nothing wrong with that, and in fact we need more of it.

Because THAT's' going to happen. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

Q1: Can someone please elaborate on the nature of "attack" and "investigations"?

Q2: Attack what (who) and how?

Q3: If this team was so solid, then why were her recent 'targets' so off?



This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey:

Because THAT's' going to happen. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

Q1: Can someone please elaborate on the nature of "attack" and "investigations"?

Q2: Attack what (who) and how?

Q3: If this team was so solid, then why were her recent 'targets' so off?

Reasonable questions. I guess WR should file a Freedom of Information request with the Foundation Board for copies of everything posted/sent on each list. Hey, if Bush is required by law to cough up the administration's emails, why not the Foundation Board?
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