Rlevse returned, Has Rlevse returned to plague FAC? Options

[chrisoff]

Seems that Rlevse has returned as PumpkinSky SPECIFICALLY to poison the well at FAC.

He caused the "sour grapes" effect at the recent RFC at WT:FAC over Raul654's "Director for Life" RFC


And Rlevse caused the nastiness and viciousness at Wt:FAC in general


But Elen of the Roads says he's not to be blocked for that or for a few copyvios here and there!

but, but! There's ax grinding against SandyGeorgia by three who are three grinding an axe: Rlevse, TCO who unvanished, and Alarbus

Wait! She forgot to mention Wehwalt. (This should distract them all from Malleus's cunt problem at the Civility Arbcom)

Where do we find the SPI? Wasn't that the one that TCO wrongly accused of being Mattisse (which was goofy as all heck), bringing Risker down on his head? In other words, I belive someone has checkuser data on BarkingMoon, and can say where he geolocates

Matisse must be climbing the walls!

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[mbz1]

OMG

[Cla68]

In the email exchange, Will Beback threatens Rlevse that if he doesn't leave the project, Will will publicly release details he dug up about Wikipedia editing by Rlevse's wife. Rlevse, understandably angered by the threat, then curses at Will Beback.

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[radek]

In the email exchange, Will Beback threatens Rlevse that if he doesn't leave the project, Will will publicly release details he dug up about Wikipedia editing by Rlevse's wife. Rlevse, understandably angered by the threat, then curses at Will Beback.

This is unnerving. I'm actually starting to feel bad for Rlevse, or at least his wife. And I certainly don't like him, and I especially didn't like him when he was on ArbCom running around yelling about "banned means banned" and being a generally abusive asshole. Now that he's down on the ground though... yeah, I feel a little bad for him - some kind of boyscout code or someting. Especially since I'm not too keen on some of the other players on the other side of this equation and how they've acted. And no, I don't mean Sandy... oh ok, lemme say it, I mean Will Beback. And then I don't really like Cla's opportunistic questions to Will either which have more to do with grudges (however well deserved) than what this is really about... gee, I guess I just don't like anybody on there.

A plague on all six houses, and someone should probably point out to Rlevse personally that it's about time he made it official, made a real account here and started spilling the goodies under his Wikipedia name.

[Cla68]

Here is the email exchange which was revdeleted:

Rlevse:
Will Beback sent this to me and I refuse to condone blackmail. Note I have twice in this thread asked him to leave me alone and yet he persists. The full thread is presented below with personal email redacted. Since he refuses to wait for Arbcom to handle this, which is what I wanted, I feel I have no other recourse other than to post here since he's clearly stated he will make the alleged posts without waiting for arbcom. He also appears to be ignoring an AN thread about me being banned where not banning is the clear consensus. Does this mean Will alone decides who edits and doesn't edit wiki and under only his conditions?
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· Thanks for admitting you were in shanigans behind my back! And AC was in on it!

You are now blocked from my email account. So don't bother sending me things again.

R



· ---- Will Beback <will's email> wrote:

The ArbCom is already aware of these allegations, which we all agreed need > not be aired publicly so long as Rlevse did not return, and which > NewYorkBrad told me would be dealt with if Rlevse should return. > > There is no question that Rlevse has returned, although the current account > has been blocked. > > Despite my request, Rlevse has not committed to not returning again. > Therefore these issues should be dealt with publicly to prevent a repeat. > > -Will >

Rlevse: I readily admitted I am PSKY so what's the news? I am not BM as you and others claim. > >You haven't violated anything? HA. Try blackmail of me. Hounding and stalking of >others, etc. >Now that your blackmail backfired, go for it. But be careful, it could and >should backfire on you. >AC--you have full notice of this. >Will--leave me alone, no, don't leave me alone, it'll be more proof of how you >hound and stalk other editors. >R

· ---- Will Beback <will's email> wrote:
> Ah, so it is you. > > I haven't engaged in any "shenanigans". I haven't violated any Wikipedia > policies, in letter or spirit. > > Since you do not seem to care about the issue, I will post a full account > of your work as a bureaucrat and the participation of JoJo. > > See also: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bur...#Rename_un-vani shed_editor > > >

Rlevse: Will: Proof I called your bluf and sent this to arbcom and am not afraid of you. > > > > Now you leave me alone. > > > > R


· > > ---- r's email wrote:
> > > Just so you guys know...do or not do what you want. All I ask for is a > > receipt that this was received and read. > > > > > > R > > >


· > > > > Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 18:35:10 -0500

> > > > From: <r's email> > > > > To: will's email > > > > Subject: Re: Wikipedia Rlevse > > > > > > > > And OBTW, I've sent this attempt at blackmail to arbcom. > > > > > > > >


· > > > > ---- r's email wrote:

> > > > > You are so full of shit and the biggest hypocrit ever. Your threats > > don't scare me. The good thing this every day more and more people become > > aware of your shenanigans. You can kiss my ass. > > > > > > > > > >


· > > > > > ---- Will Beback <Will's email> wrote:

> > > > > > After your original departure, I participated in the clean-up > > effort to address your many problem edits. As part of that effort I came > > across your history of closing AFDs as a bureaucrat, in particular those in > > which user:JoJo participated. I have not discussed this matter publicly, as > > I thought that there was no point in dragging your name through the mud if > > you'd left the project. But if you keep returning then the whole "RTV" > > thing was just a deception too and I will air it publicly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you've returned once, and possibly twice, without > > transparency I am now looking for an assurance from you that you will not > > do so again. Please reply at your earliest convenience. Otherwise I'll > > assume this is part of an ongoing pattern which is likely to be repeated, > > and act accordingly. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Will > > > > > >

[Vigilant]

Here is the email exchange which was revdeleted:

Rlevse:
Will Beback sent this to me and I refuse to condone blackmail. Note I have twice in this thread asked him to leave me alone and yet he persists. The full thread is presented below with personal email redacted. Since he refuses to wait for Arbcom to handle this, which is what I wanted, I feel I have no other recourse other than to post here since he's clearly stated he will make the alleged posts without waiting for arbcom. He also appears to be ignoring an AN thread about me being banned where not banning is the clear consensus. Does this mean Will alone decides who edits and doesn't edit wiki and under only his conditions?
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· Thanks for admitting you were in shanigans behind my back! And AC was in on it!

You are now blocked from my email account. So don't bother sending me things again.

R



· ---- Will Beback <will's email> wrote:

The ArbCom is already aware of these allegations, which we all agreed need > not be aired publicly so long as Rlevse did not return, and which > NewYorkBrad told me would be dealt with if Rlevse should return. > > There is no question that Rlevse has returned, although the current account > has been blocked. > > Despite my request, Rlevse has not committed to not returning again. > Therefore these issues should be dealt with publicly to prevent a repeat. > > -Will >

Rlevse: I readily admitted I am PSKY so what's the news? I am not BM as you and others claim. > >You haven't violated anything? HA. Try blackmail of me. Hounding and stalking of >others, etc. >Now that your blackmail backfired, go for it. But be careful, it could and >should backfire on you. >AC--you have full notice of this. >Will--leave me alone, no, don't leave me alone, it'll be more proof of how you >hound and stalk other editors. >R

· ---- Will Beback <will's email> wrote:
> Ah, so it is you. > > I haven't engaged in any "shenanigans". I haven't violated any Wikipedia > policies, in letter or spirit. > > Since you do not seem to care about the issue, I will post a full account > of your work as a bureaucrat and the participation of JoJo. > > See also: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bur...#Rename_un-vani shed_editor > > >

Rlevse: Will: Proof I called your bluf and sent this to arbcom and am not afraid of you. > > > > Now you leave me alone. > > > > R


· > > ---- r's email wrote:
> > > Just so you guys know...do or not do what you want. All I ask for is a > > receipt that this was received and read. > > > > > > R > > >


· > > > > Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 18:35:10 -0500

> > > > From: <r's email> > > > > To: will's email > > > > Subject: Re: Wikipedia Rlevse > > > > > > > > And OBTW, I've sent this attempt at blackmail to arbcom. > > > > > > > >


· > > > > ---- r's email wrote:

> > > > > You are so full of shit and the biggest hypocrit ever. Your threats > > don't scare me. The good thing this every day more and more people become > > aware of your shenanigans. You can kiss my ass. > > > > > > > > > >


· > > > > > ---- Will Beback <Will's email> wrote:

> > > > > > After your original departure, I participated in the clean-up > > effort to address your many problem edits. As part of that effort I came > > across your history of closing AFDs as a bureaucrat, in particular those in > > which user:JoJo participated. I have not discussed this matter publicly, as > > I thought that there was no point in dragging your name through the mud if > > you'd left the project. But if you keep returning then the whole "RTV" > > thing was just a deception too and I will air it publicly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you've returned once, and possibly twice, without > > transparency I am now looking for an assurance from you that you will not > > do so again. Please reply at your earliest convenience. Otherwise I'll > > assume this is part of an ongoing pattern which is likely to be repeated, > > and act accordingly. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Will > > > > > >

Vaguely reminiscent of the FT2 blackmail thing.

So, wikistalking and blackmail...

Nothing's too shitty for the regulars.