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(I am posting this here instead of the German forum, since my German is rusty and I prefer an outside view.)

I rarely (never) edit deWiki but a sudden piece of interesting information about the late Hans Diller came to my attention. As far as I could tell, an article on him was only present at deWiki.

I inserted the info (in German). A user reverted. I asked for the reasoning. None was given. It seems said user thought that it is good for the mutual respect that instead of participating in a discussen about an article, you write your admin friends in private and have them threathen anybody you disagree with.

So, asking again made this being entered on my user page:

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Please stop your editing without references, which, by the way, looks like „on the wrong side of the enyclopaedic border“. And if you revert that again, I'd have to stop you by efficient means.


The poster was a German administrator, and he has a very anti-French image on his user page.

I posted a request on the bottom of his user page for the removal of said image:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Disk...hateful_content

This led to immidiate reaction by 3 different user, none of them adressing the issue but rather "shooting back" at me. The 3rd one write in German calling me a "troll" and stating I have no interest in "encyclopedic coopoeration" and asking for my immidate block.

Certainly, the culture at deWiki is very different from enWiki.



Any thoughts?

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QUOTE(Law Lord @ Sat 19th September 2009, 2:29pm) *

I posted a request on the bottom of his user page for the removal of said image:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Disk...hateful_content

Is it really any more "hateful" than the original?
(IMG:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Size_of_English_Wikipedia_satire.svg/400px-Size_of_English_Wikipedia_satire.svg.png)
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Well, the French version makes fun of particular French topics in a way the English does not. I doubt it is something most frWiki users have on the user pages.

Anyway, this is a German user, and he has added a subtext to the image on the user page ... Not sure it is great to make fun of other nationalities like that.
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QUOTE(Law Lord @ Sat 19th September 2009, 9:42am) *
Well, the French version makes fun of particular French topics in a way the English does not. I doubt it is something most frWiki users have on the user pages.

I don't want to seem overly sardonic here, but you're not doing this the "Wiki Way."

The Wiki Way demands that you create your own version of the image (or chart or whatever), lampooning the German Wikipedia's content, which (you could say) is mostly comprised of articles about beer, sausages, and really bad Polka music. Then, you get as many French users as possible to display your version on their user pages, until finally one of the Germans notices it (which should take about 45 minutes or so).

Then, of course, rather than simply agree that such things are insulting and remove them from both sites, they would have to "up the ante," probably by creating a userbox template. This would then lead to more templates, insult-categories, attack articles, and so on.

This "tit-for-tat" would then continue for about 15 years or so, until all of the users who started the whole nasty business have left the two sites in question, and the people who came along to replace them finally realize how moronic the whole thing is.
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Wikipedia policy does not allow for blocking (''German: sperren'') of people just because you disagree with them. --


A bold statement, if ever I saw one - if only it were always true... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)

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