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"My username is derived from the initials of the football team I support, Celtic F.C., and my forename, Anthony, from the greek, ανθος (flower). I am one of few Simple Wikipedians that hails from Scotland, UK. I am a supporter of the EU and of its expansion, of the United Nations and the complete control of the UN over all worldwide peacekeeping at the expense of George W. Bush's rain of terror. I hail from a small town near the City of Glasgow - the largest and most influential city in Scotland, and the Second City after the Capital, Edinburgh.

I am extremely gifted in that I am blessed with both excellent academic and sports skills; I am an avid player of football (as well as a follower) and I participate in weekly swimming events and such like. I believe that the common Western trend of overeating is dangerous and will eventually have a negative impact on the biological chain of evolution in some distant time or place. I am not a follower of Humanism - I simply admire the elegance of the logo. Neither, do I select any of my icons for any other reason but to show uniformity and open-mindedness towards the religions of others. My religion is Roman Catholic; however, I disagree with both the way the Roman Catholic Church is ran (namely the beautifying of mass services that has become all to common of late) and of the amount of funds that head in its direction.

I am blessed with a tremendous family who are always nearby, consisting of my mum and dad, younger brother and two younger sisters; I am also in a steady relationship with a non-Wikipedian (despite my best efforts smile.gif and I am a heterosexual male who dislikes intently discrimination against same-sex marriages and homosexual, bisexual or transgender individuals.

I am training for my P.P.L. (Private Pilot's License) which I hope to achieve in a few years; I enjoy flying, and support the improvement of environmental capabilities of aircraft to allow the upholding of Aviation as well as the environment's stabality. I use - and support - public transport, and disagree with the expansion of road links (e.g. the planned M74 Extension in Glasgow), except where necessary.

Although I am a newcomer to Wikipedia Simple, I have been around at Wikipedia English for almost a year before deciding to turn my attention to this worthwhile yet perhaps slightly neglected project that deserves a place as sister to Wikipedia English."


In an earlier version he declares himself an OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) sufferer. He had a contact page with various email addresses. Declared himself as having an account with the Scottish Wikipedia, but he never made a single edit there.





Two things in AGK's statement seemed very strange to me in particular "I am extremely gifted in that I am blessed with both excellent academic and sports skills" and " I am a supporter of the EU and of its expansion, of the United Nations and the complete control of the UN over all worldwide peacekeeping at the expense of George W. Bush's rain of terror."

I believe that AGK had potentials to become a fair admin, but he did not, and here's why:

1. He's very weak and easily gives in to bullies, and trolls, and in process he will betray everybody easily.
2. He's extremely power hungry, and he will say anything that will help him to keep this power.

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Long time no see, Mila, I thought you had quit all Wikimedia projects, but I see you've gone on quite a tear over at the Commons over the last month or so.

So is AGK the new object d'attraction? Gwen Gales doesn't get you all hot and bothered anymore?
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 26th June 2012, 4:44pm) *

Long time no see, Mila, I thought you had quit all Wikimedia projects, but I see you've gone on quite a tear over at the Commons over the last month or so.

So is AGK the new object d'attraction? Gwen Gales doesn't get you all hot and bothered anymore?

My attention on wikipedia is bullying. gwen gale has not bullied anybody since at least February, the time of my lynching. For the last half year she blocked only 4-5 IP vandals, and that's it. I have a very good reasons to believe that behind the scene WMF did something to reduce a pleasure she was getting from bullying 16 years old kids.
Many editors before me tried to stop Gwen Gale from bullying, they all got persecuted and blocked, and Gwen Gale continued with her bullying. I also got persecuted and lynched, but I stopped Gwen Gale!

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I have a very good reasons to believe that behind the scene WMF did something to reduce a pleasure she was getting from bullying 16 years old kids.


Or the more plausible explanation is that she hasn't come across many vandals lately and hasn't had to use the tools. Your claim that there was a secret behind-the-scenes sanction is laughably delusional. The only thing that tops that is your belief that what you said had any effect whatsoever on WMF doings. You're a pariah that either gets ignored or reverted following repeated pesterings of their talk pages.
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 26th June 2012, 6:05pm) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 26th June 2012, 1:03pm) *

I have a very good reasons to believe that behind the scene WMF did something to reduce a pleasure she was getting from bullying 16 years old kids.


Or the more plausible explanation is that she hasn't come across many vandals lately and hasn't had to use the tools. Your claim that there was a secret behind-the-scenes sanction is laughably delusional. The only thing that tops that is your belief that what you said had any effect whatsoever on WMF doings. You're a pariah that either gets ignored or reverted following repeated pesterings of their talk pages.

Gwen gale has not blocked anybody for more than a month, and she used to block a few editors per day, and I have a very good reasons to believe she was told to stop bullying editors (not vandals, but kids and newbies) .

Yes, right, Sue ignored me calling you, tarc, a liar because she probably agrees with my description of you. biggrin.gif
But Philippe (WMF) and Geoffbrigham responded my posts.
And now, if you could please return to the subject of this thread,which I believe is AGK, it will be great...

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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 26th June 2012, 3:29pm) *
Gwen gale has not blocked anybody for more than a month, and she used to block a few editors per day, and I have a very good reasons to believe she was told to stop bullying editors (not vandals, but kids and newbies) .


Again; you are deliusional.


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Yes, right, Sue ignored me calling you, tarc, a liar because she probably agrees with my description of you. biggrin.gif


Yes, because in much of the English-speaking world, silence means agreement. confused.gif


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But Philippe (WMF) and Geoffbrigham responded my posts.
And now, if you could please return to the subject of this thread,which I believe is AGK, it will be great...


Geoff posted a very long-winded brush-off.

Phillipe responded to you on 31 May, telling you that he was not going to comment o nsome aspects due to legal reasons, and ten pointed out several places where you lied. Would you like me to quote some of those? "Third, you statement that Wikipedia is the only environment that bans people is patently false" was a good one, as well as "You bear some responsibility for the nature of your contributions that led to the situation."

He then reverted your entire rant, uncommented-upon, June 1st.
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QUOTE(FightingMac @ Thu 21st June 2012, 10:01pm) *

"I am training for my P.P.L. (Private Pilot's License) which I hope to achieve in a few years; I enjoy flying, and support the improvement of environmental capabilities of aircraft to allow the upholding of Aviation as well as the environment's stabality. I use - and support - public transport, and disagree with the expansion of road links (e.g. the planned M74 Extension in Glasgow), except where necessary."


If the birth month that PD gives for AGK is correct, he was 16 when he wrote the above and therefore unable to get even a provisional driver's licence. No wonder he used public transport.

The CAA rules for pilots' licences seem to have changed over the years. I therefore am not sure when someone could start training to fly a powered aircraft, (unpowered ones don't seem to need them). It would be surprising but not inconceivable if you could start to learn to fly before you can start to learn to drive.
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 26th June 2012, 8:24pm) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 26th June 2012, 3:29pm) *
Gwen gale has not blocked anybody for more than a month, and she used to block a few editors per day, and I have a very good reasons to believe she was told to stop bullying editors (not vandals, but kids and newbies) .


Again; you are deliusional.


tarc, I am never delusional, and if I am saying something I could prove my words.

As a result of my RFC gwen was questioned about two bullying blocks she imposed:

Block #1 and
block #2

Then Phillipe (WMF) stated this publicly on wiki http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=71873750

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You were heard, and listened to, but I am not at liberty to say what, if any, action was taken. There are very real legal and ethical boundaries that we can not cross..


So as you could see he admits I was " heard, and listened to" and of course there were some private communications that I cannot reveal here. There were actions taken, trust me on that. WMF got involved with a bullied kid's story except it was too late for protecting this kid.

Besides not connected to my RFC in any way there was an article in
The Chronicle Review http://chronicle.com/article/The-Undue-Wei...ruth-on/130704/ which successfully demonstrated how gwen gale made a fool not only of herslef, but also of wikipedia. After reading this article an editor came to Gwen's talk page and had this to say: "I looked at the page and discussion in question, and it seems to me that you are boorish and a bully. I would like to suggest that you tone down your air of self-righteous authority, in order to encourage a more civil atmosphere on Wikipedia."
The publication of this article at the very same day I got reblocked by govcom is a great symbolism!

Now, here's Gwen Gale block log http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/block/Gwen_Gale
As you see the last block of IP vandal was imposed on May 16. Today is June 26, which makes it more than a month.

I have absolutely nothing against gwen personally. I believe she has a sense of humor, and once I even awarded her a barnstar for this. My problem is bullying. Gwen Gale as many other abusive admins gets a pleasure of bullying. It is sick. I hope my RFC, the article in The Chronicle Review, a few posts at Gwen's page I linked to above, the story with a 16-years old kid feeling as killing himself because she bullied him (do not provide links in purpose to protect the kid) and so on healed gwen from experiencing a pleasure from bullying and I am happy mostly for her.

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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 26th June 2012, 3:29pm) *
Yes, right, Sue ignored me calling you, tarc, a liar because she probably agrees with my description of you. biggrin.gif



Yes, because in much of the English-speaking world, silence means agreement. confused.gif




I am trilled that we were able to agree on this. In my culture "silence means agreement" too.

And now,could you please ignore me too? evilgrin.gif

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QUOTE(Eppur si muove @ Tue 26th June 2012, 10:28pm) *

QUOTE(FightingMac @ Thu 21st June 2012, 10:01pm) *

"I am training for my P.P.L. (Private Pilot's License) which I hope to achieve in a few years; I enjoy flying, and support the improvement of environmental capabilities of aircraft to allow the upholding of Aviation as well as the environment's stabality. I use - and support - public transport, and disagree with the expansion of road links (e.g. the planned M74 Extension in Glasgow), except where necessary."


If the birth month that PD gives for AGK is correct, he was 16 when he wrote the above and therefore unable to get even a provisional driver's licence. No wonder he used public transport.

The CAA rules for pilots' licences seem to have changed over the years. I therefore am not sure when someone could start training to fly a powered aircraft, (unpowered ones don't seem to need them). It would be surprising but not inconceivable if you could start to learn to fly before you can start to learn to drive.

If AKG was 16 years old, when he wrote this, I believe we should stop discussing his statement now because he was just a kid, and I could forgive many things to kids.

I only wish AGK to concentrate less on wikipedia and more on his real life because he's getting very nervous responding blocks appeals, and this could be harmful to his health. http://independent.academia.edu/DamirIbris...th_Wikipedia_4_

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I would have a nicer day if you stopped e-mailing me. Wikipedia is a non-profit and we are volunteers. Whyon earth would I want to spend my days reading messages such as yours? My client has been set to autodiscard all your messages, and the ArbCom mailing list is being set to auto-discard any messages you send it.Give it up.

-Anthony (AGK)


On the other hand, AGK, nobody forced you to become a member of govcom. You've chosen this way yourself, and, if you did, would you please stop talking about "volunteers" and learn to work with every user?

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... If AKG was 16 years old, when he wrote this, I believe we should stop discussing his statement now because he was just a kid, and I could forgive many things to kids.




And plainly a very vulnerable 16 year old ...

Yet he was mentored and championed by Wikipedians, essentially groomed for adminship while still a minor, and on the evidence of your post is presently stressed by the responsibilities he takes upon himself.

I can add that merely being a kid when he made the kind of bossy and agressive, even threatening, edits he was making then doesn't exonerate him from making them. That he treated (at the age of 15) Joe Decker in the way he did raises fundamental quesions in my mind about his maturity and fitness for positions of responsibility regardless of the age he made them.

If the whole account is not a persona, just as his mentor Essjay's was, which I still find plausible, then I suspect a narcissistic personality disorder and that is something that stays with you - you don't "grow out" of narcissism, rather it grows with you.
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QUOTE(FightingMac @ Wed 27th June 2012, 2:40am) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Wed 27th June 2012, 3:55am) *


... If AKG was 16 years old, when he wrote this, I believe we should stop discussing his statement now because he was just a kid, and I could forgive many things to kids.




And plainly a very vulnerable 16 year old ...

Yet he was mentored and championed by Wikipedians, essentially groomed for adminship while still a minor, and on the evidence of your post is presently stressed by the responsibilities he takes upon himself.

I can add that merely being a kid when he made the kind of bossy and agressive, even threatening, edits he was making then doesn't exonerate him from making them. That he treated (at the age of 15) Joe Decker in the way he did raises fundamental quesions in my mind about his maturity and fitness for positions of responsibility regardless of the age he made them.

If the whole account is not a persona, just as his mentor Essjay's was, which I still find plausible, then I suspect a narcissistic personality disorder and that is something that stays with you - you don't "grow out" of narcissism, rather it grows with you.

What Joe Decker? Any diffs?
But generally speaking I cannot blame a kid who wants to have a power (become admin) I do blame adults who allow that to happen. I am more than sure wikipedia has destroyed many young lives. These wikipedia kids do not yet understand what wikipedia did to them, and when they will it could be too late to fix. One of these kids said http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Armbrust
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except I do not believe he did retire. Wikipedia is addictive and kids and some adults too have difficulties quitting. I feel sorry for them. They are robbed of their lives.



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What Joe Decker? Any diffs?


I mentioned this in an earlier post as follows (underlined are diffs and links etc.):

Also revealing is this

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Further attempts to do so will result in implications against your user account.

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he put on Joe Decker's Talk page 14 March 2006, again less than a month after AGK started his account, the only possible edit from this respected editor and administrator it can refer to being an edit Joe made on the ongoing Roman Catholic paedophilia scandals at the time.

Joe responded with

As I've asked on your talk page, please provide a reference to any such abuse, I believe your complaint is without basis.


and indeed you can see on AGK's Talk Page that Joe responded there on 15 March 2006, except that everything on brother Anthony's cfc Talk page from its creation 27 February 2006 to 25 January 2007 has been revision deleted ...

So here we have Anthony as a young 15 year old Roman Catholic boy trying to repress, less than a month after Anthony started his account, a good faith edit on the Roman Catholics paedophilia scandals by a respected editor destined to become an administrator himself. Certainly immature of course, but it's more than just that: it, and others like it, are indicative of a degree of self-importance which I would qualify as pathological, perhaps indeed a reflection of the obsessive compulsive and bipolar disorders he mentions but I'm inclined to suggest narcissistic.

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But generally speaking I cannot blame a kid who wants to have a power (become admin) I do blame adults who allow that to happen. ... Wikipedia is addictive and kids and some adults too have difficulties quitting. I feel sorry for them. They are robbed of their lives.


Yes, I agree with this exactly. If he is not simply a persona, a sham like Essjay, then AGK, Anthony of old, was vulnerable and spending far too much of his time on Wikipedia. He says he was academically gifted, and yet we don't see evidence of further study from him. I'm not sure at what age he started to receive direct tuition in becoming an admin (that did happen) but I suspect he was under the age of eighteen at the time. I can imagine a situation where his parents might not have wanted that to happen, rather wanted to discourage his fascination with Wikipedia (a fascination entirely with to do with its supervision and gaining power, disinterested in contributing content himself). I don't say this is so, but I can well imagine it and that there other parents similarly affected, likewise bringing up socially isolated or awkward adolescents like Anthony who become obsessed with Wikipedia.

In this case we have a boy who says he suffers from a well defined mental illness being mentored by the community and encouraged to 'train' as administrator.

I think that is very questionable indeed.

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I am trilled that we were able to agree on this. In my culture "silence means agreement" too.


That was sarcasm, you fucking retard.

Let me make this real clear for you; the Wikimedia Foundation thinks you're a bat-shit insane lunatic. They either brush you off, ignore you, or revert your trolling from their talk pages.

Nothing you have said to them matters.

You are deranged.
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Nothing you have said to them matters.

You are deranged.

On the contrary - I now believe that virtually everything Ms. Mbz1 has written or said to the Wikimedia Foundation during the last several months has not only been heard and listened to, but has actually been enshrined as core policy, informing all aspects of Wikipedia governance. Indeed, I think it's clear that all significant WMF initiatives are now being specifically routed through Ms. Mbz1 for comment and approval, and nothing happens there anymore without her express permission and recommendation.

What's more, this is also a big step up from the person who fulfilled this role for the WMF in the past, namely former Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich.
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 27th June 2012, 5:44pm) *

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I am trilled that we were able to agree on this. In my culture "silence means agreement" too.


That was sarcasm, you fucking retard.

Let me make this real clear for you; the Wikimedia Foundation thinks you're a bat-shit insane lunatic. They either brush you off, ignore you, or revert your trolling from their talk pages.

Nothing you have said to them matters.

You are deranged.


Tarc, you know about how you say you can be a prick....
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QUOTE(FightingMac @ Wed 27th June 2012, 5:21am) *

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What Joe Decker? Any diffs?


I mentioned this in an earlier post as follows (underlined are diffs and links etc.):

Also revealing is this

== NOTICE ==

This is a Warning from The Wikipedia RC Patrol.

Please stop adding sexually explicit content and nonsense to Wikipedia.

Further attempts to do so will result in implications against your user account.

Thank you


he put on Joe Decker's Talk page 14 March 2006, again less than a month after AGK started his account, the only possible edit from this respected editor and administrator it can refer to being an edit Joe made on the ongoing Roman Catholic paedophilia scandals at the time.

Joe responded with

As I've asked on your talk page, please provide a reference to any such abuse, I believe your complaint is without basis.


and indeed you can see on AGK's Talk Page that Joe responded there on 15 March 2006, except that everything on brother Anthony's cfc Talk page from its creation 27 February 2006 to 25 January 2007 has been revision deleted ...

So here we have Anthony as a young 15 year old Roman Catholic boy trying to repress, less than a month after Anthony started his account, a good faith edit on the Roman Catholics paedophilia scandals by a respected editor destined to become an administrator himself. Certainly immature of course, but it's more than just that: it, and others like it, are indicative of a degree of self-importance which I would qualify as pathological, perhaps indeed a reflection of the obsessive compulsive and bipolar disorders he mentions but I'm inclined to suggest narcissistic.

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Wed 27th June 2012, 7:20am) *


But generally speaking I cannot blame a kid who wants to have a power (become admin) I do blame adults who allow that to happen. ... Wikipedia is addictive and kids and some adults too have difficulties quitting. I feel sorry for them. They are robbed of their lives.


Yes, I agree with this exactly. If he is not simply a persona, a sham like Essjay, then AGK, Anthony of old, was vulnerable and spending far too much of his time on Wikipedia. He says he was academically gifted, and yet we don't see evidence of further study from him. I'm not sure at what age he started to receive direct tuition in becoming an admin (that did happen) but I suspect he was under the age of eighteen at the time. I can imagine a situation where his parents might not have wanted that to happen, rather wanted to discourage his fascination with Wikipedia (a fascination entirely with to do with its supervision and gaining power, disinterested in contributing content himself). I don't say this is so, but I can well imagine it and that there other parents similarly affected, likewise bringing up socially isolated or awkward adolescents like Anthony who become obsessed with Wikipedia.

In this case we have a boy who says he suffers from a well defined mental illness being mentored by the community and encouraged to 'train' as administrator.

I think that is very questionable indeed.

I read a story about academically gifted 15 years old boy. He developed a test to check for cancer, and was awarded $75,000. I wonder, if he has an account on Wikipedia smile.gif

AGK is probably academically gifted too because I personally cannot imagine how one could spend at least 40 hours per week working on the matters related to the governance of wikipedia and do not fell behind in his Uni's study. biggrin.gif
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... AGK is probably academically gifted too because I personally cannot imagine how one could spend at least 40 hours per week working on the matters related to the governance of wikipedia and do not fell behind in his Uni's study. biggrin.gif


smile.gif well he says he is, but I don't see any of it in his edits. Looking at his time stamps there seems to be no settled pattern beyond a preference for editing late at night. One plausible suggestion is that he is on disability benefits in the UK and doesn't work.

I think it's very likely that there are juveniles editing Wikipedia to the detriment of their studies. But I'm not certain that AGK is a juvenile. What you say about addiction is quite certain, young people without a life editing 16 hours a day or more.

On the whole I favour his being a sock, indeed of Astrotrain, and the account entirely a persona in the manner of Essjay, the motivation being quite possibly to gain access to juveniles. I have yet to analyse his RfAs, but I expect to find the sudden surge of support at his second RfA to stem from juvenile connections he made while being mentored for administration. I don't really buy the Scots, I suspect he is Canadian. I also don't think he is a genuine trainspotting anorak, not obsessed enough. Pretty sure that's just a pose. Likewise all the stuff about Celtic football club, being a trainee pilot and so on. I'm afraid I'm pretty sure he is a fairly pathological fraud. It is indeed worrying what his motivation really can be.

Of course he could be from NSA or something like that, always to be borne in mind with checkusers.

I shall write various contacts in the world of media over the weekend to see if I can't drum up some interest in the story here. There is a story here of course.
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Looking at his time stamps there seems to be no settled pattern beyond a preference for editing late at night. ... I don't really buy the Scots, I suspect he is Canadian.

How might we define late at night? If indeed he is Canadian, is he not in a different time zone from Scotland? Edits at midnight in Glasgow are at 4pm in Vancouver I think.

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Looking at his time stamps there seems to be no settled pattern beyond a preference for editing late at night. ... I don't really buy the Scots, I suspect he is Canadian.

How might we define late at night? If indeed he is Canadian, is he not in a different time zone from Scotland? Edits at midnight in Glasgow are at 4pm in Vancouver I think.


Well, it seems to be UTC the time stamp, but I can't directly confirm it for View History. Is that right? At any rate that's what's in a signature on a Talk page. So midnight UTC would be 7 pm Montreal time if I'm doing my arithmetic right.

What struck me about the Scots thing is that having joined the Scottish wikipedia, he didn't make a single edit there, not one. I do find that curious.

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... AGK is probably academically gifted too because I personally cannot imagine how one could spend at least 40 hours per week working on the matters related to the governance of wikipedia and do not fell behind in his Uni's study. biggrin.gif


smile.gif well he says he is, but I don't see any of it in his edits. Looking at his time stamps there seems to be no settled pattern beyond a preference for editing late at night.


I divide admins in categories:

There are some admins that become admins to make Wikipedia a better, fairer and safer place. Alison is probably a good example of this kind of admins.

There are some admins that become admins just to have the tools, which they rarely (never) use. They are mostly interested in adding content to wikipedia, and for them being an admin is just something that is nice to have. You seldom almost never see them commenting on drama boards or imposing idiotic blocks.

And there are some admins that become admins to gain as much power on as many wikipedia projects as they possibly could. In most cases these users are lonely, have no friends in a real life and might suffer from mental or physical illnesses that prevent them from going out, having a girlfriend, doing sports, having fun and simply living a normal life. It is quit sickening that WMF shamelessly exploits these kind of users. Besides WMF does not understand or simply does not care that these kind of admins do the most damage to the project. It is doubtful that between these admins there are lots of "academically gifted" ones simply because "academically gifted" people prefer creative work not police one.

And of course there are admins that fell in between of the groups I described.

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