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Essjay controversy has been nominated for Featured Article, articles which are supposed to represent the best of Wikipedia. Featured Articles may appear on Wikipedia's Main Page. Is this navel gazing? Or is it important for Wikipedia to air its own dirty laundry on its front page?
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FAs aren't just about going on the front page, you know. An FA doesn't have to go on the front page at all. I would say that this one shouldn't, but that also shouldn't keep it from being an FA.
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QUOTE(everyking @ Sat 1st September 2007, 5:59pm) *

FAs aren't just about going on the front page, you know. An FA doesn't have to go on the front page at all.


That's true; I actually doubt it would ever be accepted for the Main Page even if it passes FA. And so far, both reviewers have objected.

I think even the title is a little too Wikipedia-centered. I think this article had a more neutral title when it was named Essjay scandal, because the event was really only controversial on Wikipedia itself; few (if any) sources are disputing that Ryan Jordan used false credentials while editing Wikipedia, during content disputes, and to the press. Few people outside of Wikipedia would argue that Essjay was justified in making false claims to the press or during edit disputes, so the "controversy" exists only on Wikipedia. Elsewhere it's pretty much a scandal.

The thing is: I'm not sure this article could ever meet the Featured Article requirements, even with a completely objective editor (if one exists). FAs are supposed to be articles of a quality better than that of existing encyclopedias. Since no other encyclopedia is going to have an article about Essjay, there's no way to objectively measure this article against existing encyclopedia articles.

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Wiki-censored, not wiki-centric.

QUOTE(Firsfron of Ronchester @ Sat 1st September 2007, 3:31pm) *

I think even the title is a little too Wikipedia-centered. I think this article had a more neutral title when it was named Essjay scandal, because the event was really only controversial on Wikipedia itself; few (if any) sources are disputing that Ryan Jordan used false credentials while editing Wikipedia, during content disputes, and to the press. Few people outside of Wikipedia would argue that Essjay was justified in making false claims to the press or during edit disputes, so the "controversy" exists only on Wikipedia. Elsewhere it's pretty much a scandal.


Uhm, the bad title isn't about being too wiki-centered; it's an attempt at whitewashing the truth. Yes, you're right that it's not a controversy, but calling it a scandal, while accurate, makes Wikipedia look bad.

Under the broken view of NPOV that is often held by biased admins, anything that makes your side look bad isn't neutra, even when it's entirely factuall. Just look at how Jayjg and the rest of Team Israel tacked on "Allegations of" to [[Israeli Apartheid]]. The term, as cited, is simply "Israeli apartheid", and the article is about the term. Whether it's alleged or actual is irrelevant; it exists as a term. For comparison, look at [[Zionist Occupation Government]], which doesn't start with 'allegation of" because it's too ridiculous to take seriously.

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Firsfron of Ronchester   [[Essjay controversy]] up for Featured Article  
Jonny Cache   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essjay_controve...  
Kato   The nomination is priceless :lol: I have a feel...  
blissyu2   Bizarre. Much as it might be fun to have that on ...  
grievous   Bizarre. Much as it might be fun to have that on...  
Pwok   I wouldn't be surprised if it went on their fr...  
guy   Articles on the front page always get floods of ed...  
Jonny Cache   Articles on the front page always get floods of e...  
Jonny Cache   FAs aren't just about going on the front page...  
Firsfron of Ronchester   [u]Wiki-censored, not wiki-centric. Uhm, the bad...  
Pwok   The title may be a whitewash, but (groan) at least...  
JoseClutch   The title may be a whitewash, but (groan) at leas...  
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Firsfron of Ronchester' post='47767...  
Yehudi   In ordinary usage, being a professional means you...  
Jonny Cache   In ordinary usage, being a professional means yo...  
Pwok   I'm not sure this is a good description of pro...  
Firsfron of Ronchester   Leaving aside the subject/object disagreement in...  
Pwok   Are we talking about all instances or in most case...  
Jaranda   Of course he'll never put that in the main pag...  
jdrand   The reason why WJBscribe voted oppose is not becau...  
Pwok   WJBscribe voted "no" because he was one ...  
LamontStormstar   WJBscribe voted "no" because he was one...  
Pwok   I never looked at the whole Malber story but I rem...  
Unrepentant Vandal   So this is what it's come to: the most popular...  
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Rochelle   There's no way it's going to pass. In fact...  
blissyu2   WJBscribe helped to ban Malber. He is a good guy.  
Pwok   He's a good guy. That speaks volumes: it tells...  
Unrepentant Vandal   He doesn't belong in a position of responsibi...  
Pwok   Luckily, Wikipedia is not an encyclopedia. They ma...  
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Pwok   Look, I don't believe the claim either. The fa...  
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