List of Bigbust models and performers on the chopping block, What will JzG do if it's deleted?? Options

[the fieryangel]

It's extremely close and the delete votes are giving very good reasons along the lines of NOR and violates BLP.

Well, I tried to, but here goes again : subjective - response, all entertainment and arts categorization is subjective. The current criteria offered ... So we fix the criteria. that a criteria could be derived by consensus is not at doubt. Again, what's the criteria for ALL inclusion on Wp for entertainment - notability - anything except subjective? unreferenced At best an argument to remove a specific item on the list, not the list. BLP issue I think if I'm being filmed or photographed for 'Big Juggs Weekly' or whatever that's unlikely to be an issue. I suspect very few if any of the list members are offended by inclusion. Basically this is a demeaning and sexist article Ah, the heart of the matter. You don't like the topic? Tough. Wp is full of stuff I might not like, but it's not about liking it.MadScot (talk) 01:00, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Many comments center around the eternal question of "what is a 'big-bust'?"

Many of the lists have inclusion criteria as arbitrary, or more arbitrary than this on. How deaf is a deaf person? How obese are the "most obese" people? How bipolar is bipolar? How depressed is a "depressed" person? How "bratty" and how "famous" is a is a "famous military brat?" How "famous" and "young" to be on the list of "famous people who died young?" I am just noting that many lists have membership criteria which are not easily defined. In List of deaf people#Musicians with a hearing loss I expect that almost all rock musicians and many band musicians have "a hearing loss" due to exposure to sounds way over 100 dB for prolonged periods. How many dB of hearing loss is certified for each? Edison (talk) 20:30, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Many vote "Keep" because "it wasn't deleted before"...

Speedy keep per the long string of previous, failed deletion attempts. I frankly find the nominator's tone quite uncivil and in violation of the assume good faith policy, given that he preemptively claims that this is a "demeaning and sexist" article, and that anyone who would choose to keep it hasn't "grown". Truth is, the dissemination of images of big busted women is fairly obviously referenceable by publications that the nominator might be embarrassed by. There aren't any problems here that aren't repairable by normal editing. And lists of people who qualify for their own articles do not need separate references in the list if their qualification for inclusion is verified on their own articles, either. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

[Piperdown]

well well well. This fella's had a run-in with Sir Turd (JzG) himself, and shared some WP-is-a-social-website-time with the Shank.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Benjiboi

I have been topic banned, seen here, unjustly and without due process, IMHO, by Guy (JzG).

If you read the description, you will see I dedicated this photo to you. --David Shankbone 02:30, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

he's talking about this photo placed on benji's page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:A_man_r...Fire_Island.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Benjiboi



guy is not winning friends from amongst the 10%-ers out there on WP. probably doesn't like WP user pages being used in such a, um, friendly way. The nude, self portrait FireIsland photo just coos "Come hither, Mr Shankbone!". Who knew that WP was a great place to post nude full body photos of yourself to get laid? And we complain about Slim's cartoon nudie avatar.

Benji's on opposite side of the Tig Bitty List than Guy. Which is ironic considering their WP editing habits (or IP secret ones in Guy's case!).

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=241619538

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[the fieryangel]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:A_man_r...Fire_Island.jpg

Oh, THAT photo. That used be on the Public Sex article, but arbitrator FT2 "commented" it out last night, mainly because he realized that they better have clear consent before they post a photo that says "this man is having public sex"....FT2 also points out on the talkpage that most of this article is original research anyway, so I see a rewrite in this article's future.

At least one person gets it over there....You have to point out when they do things right for a change!

In the meantime, Benjiboi is occupied with the defense of the Pederasty articles... in various articles about the subject and related categories....

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