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Milton Roe
post Sun 28th September 2008, 11:11pm
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QUOTE(Piperdown @ Sun 28th September 2008, 2:42pm) *

oh greg, this one is a keeper:
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Delete again. Definition of "big" is still arbitrary, most of these have zero truly credible sources anyway, and this article is canonical breastcruft - we are not Boobpedia, and simply having silicon injected does not actually make anyone worthy of anything. Guy (Help!) 22:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


Plus, silicon injections would be really painful, and are only recommended for Borg. See Seven of Nine . Well, Alison had to talk about chips...
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post Mon 29th September 2008, 7:45am
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Oh, THAT photo. That used be on the Public Sex article, but arbitrator FT2 "commented" it out last night, mainly because he realized that they better have clear consent before they post a photo that says "this man is having public sex"....FT2 also points out on the talkpage that most of this article is original research anyway, so I see a rewrite in this article's future.

At least one person gets it over there....You have to point out when they do things right for a change!

In the meantime, Benjiboi is occupied with the defense of the Pederasty articles... in various articles about the subject and related categories....

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Well, that's that.


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The result was '''delete'''. The primary argument by those !voting to keep was a reference to all the previous AFDs, but [[WP:CCC|consensus can change]]. There were other weak arguments either way, but nobody has successfully refuted Scott MacDonald's point that the list is inherently subjective and the poor referencing leads to BLP issues. I've thought about this closure for quite a while and won't be changing it; DRV is [[WP:DRV|thataway]] if you disagree with it. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle/wizard|talk]]) 08:58, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


What is the World coming to??

(Don't worry, JzG...there's still DRV!)

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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Mon 29th September 2008, 3:45am) *

Oh, THAT photo. That used be on the Public Sex article, but arbitrator FT2 "commented" it out last night...


What will be Shankbone's reaction when he sees that his artistry has been downgraded?

But, I have another question, which I am afraid to research myself. About this "Meat Rack" zone on Fire Island, it appears to be a public space (actually called the Carrington Tract) in a federal National Seashore... so, is it possible that I could be strolling with my preschool-aged daughter along a trail, only to come upon a man like Shankbone depicted, being photographed by someone like Shankbone?

As an American taxpayer, do I not have some right, somewhere in law, to not have to encounter that with my child, on land that my tax dollars help pay for?

I'm not suggesting that I discriminate against homosexual sex here, either. It's the "public" part with which I have issues. If it were an anonymous woman who looked like Carolina Ardohain "racked up" to a pair of trees, soliciting free sex from passing heterosexual males, I'd also be deeply concerned about my child seeing that.

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AND!......DRV opened by none other than Benjiboi!
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Well, they've proved that, whatever the critics say, the project of building a free encyclopedia that everybody can edit is not a big bust!
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post Mon 29th September 2008, 9:46pm
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QUOTE(Obesity @ Sun 28th September 2008, 1:03pm) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=241358701

Hey Alison, why do you hate Wikipedia?????

Sorry, that's not what I meant to say. Let me try that again.

Hey Alison, why do you hate women with grotesquely enormous fake boobs? You're ruining things for the rest of us.

I hope you're happy, Alison! It looks like they've called the portly one's bluff....

Oh well; he was mostly useless as an editor, anyway.

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QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 29th September 2008, 12:57pm) *

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Mon 29th September 2008, 3:45am) *

Oh, THAT photo. That used be on the Public Sex article, but arbitrator FT2 "commented" it out last night...


What will be Shankbone's reaction when he sees that his artistry has been downgraded?

But, I have another question, which I am afraid to research myself. About this "Meat Rack" zone on Fire Island, it appears to be a public space (actually called the Carrington Tract) in a federal National Seashore... so, is it possible that I could be strolling with my preschool-aged daughter along a trail, only to come upon a man like Shankbone depicted, being photographed by someone like Shankbone?

As an American taxpayer, do I not have some right, somewhere in law, to not have to encounter that with my child, on land that my tax dollars help pay for?

I'm not suggesting that I discriminate against homosexual sex here, either. It's the "public" part with which I have issues. If it were an anonymous woman who looked like Carolina Ardohain "racked up" to a pair of trees, soliciting free sex from passing heterosexual males, I'd also be deeply concerned about my child seeing that.

Greg

Have you ever been to Mykonos? If you go to Paradise (Beach) you know exactly what to expect. And if you go to Super Paradise: you also know what to expect. (Hint: I don´t think Super Paradise is for you; & certainly not with your daughter tongue.gif )

I have never been to Fire Island, but in my experience: places like that are normally very well...advertised.. you will not come within a mile of such a place without knowing it/being warned.
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QUOTE(Obesity @ Mon 29th September 2008, 2:46pm) *

QUOTE(Obesity @ Sun 28th September 2008, 1:03pm) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=241358701

Hey Alison, why do you hate Wikipedia?????

Sorry, that's not what I meant to say. Let me try that again.

Hey Alison, why do you hate women with grotesquely enormous fake boobs? You're ruining things for the rest of us.

I hope you're happy, Alison! It looks like they've called the portly one's bluff....

Oh well; he was mostly useless as an editor, anyway.

OOooooh sad.gif
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post Tue 30th September 2008, 2:40pm
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QUOTE(The Adversary @ Tue 30th September 2008, 3:38am) *

Have you ever been to Mykonos? If you go to Paradise (Beach) you know exactly what to expect. And if you go to Super Paradise: you also know what to expect. (Hint: I don´t think Super Paradise is for you; & certainly not with your daughter tongue.gif )

I have never been to Fire Island, but in my experience: places like that are normally very well...advertised.. you will not come within a mile of such a place without knowing it/being warned.


TA, perhaps you missed my point. Are the beaches at Paradise publicly-funded, or are they owned property of the gay clubs in Mykonos? Regardless, I don't pay taxes to any governmental agency in Greece.

I do pay taxes to the U.S. federal government, and Fire Island's "Meatrack" is in the Fire Island National Seashore. My United States tax dollars go toward preserving this land, and the website that my tax dollars helped pay for makes no mention that my kids should "expect" to see nude men getting boned by strangers.

Admittedly, there is one helpful warning that might help me during my visit:
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There is, however, something for David Shankbone to do there!

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Kosher; you are right, I missed it. The way American taxpayers money is bleeding away in Iraq, Afghanistan and on Wall Street, well, it just didn´t cross my mind that you were worried about money spent on .......Fire Island.



On another note, has anybody seen Amarcord? It is ages since I last saw it, but it has an absolutely unforgettable scene were the protagonist nearly suffocates... You look at big boobs in a different manner after seeing that movie!
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Kosher; you are right, I missed it. The way American taxpayers money is bleeding away in Iraq, Afghanistan and on Wall Street, well, it just didn´t cross my mind that you were worried about money spent on .......Fire Island.


So, I guess if I didn't go out and participate in a letter-writing campaign and a sign-holding protest when a company in January 1990 released 100 gallons of sewage into a creek in Middletown Township, PA, I not only shouldn't scold my neighbor if I find him taking a dump in the common area across the street from my house, I should go out and applaud him, being that he's producing less waste than 100 gallons?

Nice logic, Adversary.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 2nd October 2008, 2:12pm) *

QUOTE(The Adversary @ Thu 2nd October 2008, 4:13am) *

Kosher; you are right, I missed it. The way American taxpayers money is bleeding away in Iraq, Afghanistan and on Wall Street, well, it just didn´t cross my mind that you were worried about money spent on .......Fire Island.


So, I guess if I didn't go out and participate in a letter-writing campaign and a sign-holding protest when a company in January 1990 released 100 gallons of sewage into a creek in Middletown Township, PA, I not only shouldn't scold my neighbor if I find him taking a dump in the common area across the street from my house, I should go out and applaud him, being that he's producing less waste than 100 gallons?

Nice logic, Adversary.


Yep, saying that you can only look at one problem at any one time is a horrible fallacy.
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QUOTE(The Adversary @ Thu 2nd October 2008, 1:13am) *

On another note, has anybody seen Amarcord? It is ages since I last saw it, but it has an absolutely unforgettable scene were the protagonist nearly suffocates... You look at big boobs in a different manner after seeing that movie!

That Fellini movie also has memorable a scene where a guy from a luntatic asylum climbs a tree and starts screaming "I want a woman!!!". I think the film Network a few years later, where the guy puts his head out the window and starts saying "I'm mad as hell and I'm taking it any more!" is a nod to Fellini.

Anyway, it's rather primal and it embarrasses this little Catholic town in the 1920's or whenever, and it takes a long time to get him down. I think they use a nun who is a dwarf on a ladder, like something from a modern David E. Kelley sitcom (he, like Chayefsky and Woody Allen, must all be Fellini fans). The whole movie is full of things very dreamlike, Freudian, and nostalgic. It was way ahead of its time for the 70's, for sure.
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QUOTE(maggot3 @ Thu 2nd October 2008, 2:47pm) *
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Yep, saying that you can only look at one problem at any one time is a horrible fallacy.
<sigh> Yeah, but there is a difference between a sparrow and an elephant. When people care too much about "the sparrows", I wonder what´s behind it. Really, Kosher, how much of your tax-money goes to keeping the beaches on Fire Island? As much as 5 cents? I doubt it is more. And I don´t think you really care about 5 cents. So why don´t you say it as it is: You cannot stand the thought of that a--hole Shanky getting anything, off anybody, for free. It´s ok! You can say it aloud! You are among friends here! (at least on this issue). I cannot stand mr. Me-me-ME-&-myself-Shankbone either. So say it aloud: You don´t want mr. Narcissus to enjoy anything, ever, after all the misery he has caused others.
But pleeease: don´t hide behind your holy 5-cent-tax-money fig-leaf. That looks...petty.

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Thu 2nd October 2008, 3:11pm) *

QUOTE(The Adversary @ Thu 2nd October 2008, 1:13am) *

On another note, has anybody seen Amarcord? It is ages since I last saw it, but it has an absolutely unforgettable scene were the protagonist nearly suffocates... You look at big boobs in a different manner after seeing that movie!

That Fellini movie also has memorable a scene where a guy from a luntatic asylum climbs a tree and starts screaming "I want a woman!!!". I think the film Network a few years later, where the guy puts his head out the window and starts saying "I'm mad as hell and I'm taking it any more!" is a nod to Fellini.

Anyway, it's rather primal and it embarrasses this little Catholic town in the 1920's or whenever, and it takes a long time to get him down. I think they use a nun who is a dwarf on a ladder, like something from a modern David E. Kelley sitcom (he, like Chayefsky and Woody Allen, must all be Fellini fans). The whole movie is full of things very dreamlike, Freudian, and nostalgic. It was way ahead of its time for the 70's, for sure.

Ah yes; Voglio una donna! ..another totally unforgettable scene tongue.gif

There is another film from the 70´s which reminds me of Amarcord (not in content, but in form). It is the 1972 movie J'irai comme un cheval fou, ("I Will Walk Like A Crazy Horse") Viva la Muerte by Fernando Arrabal. Fantastic movie! -about a boy/man whose father disappeared in the Spanish civil war (after being sentenced to death) --that is autobiography on Arrabal´s part. This boy/man then "sees" all the different ways his father could have been killed..accompanied by this eerily music: children singing very sweetly and innocently. That film really knocked me out, like few films ever have.

Both Amarcord and "I Will Walk Like A Crazy Horse" Viva la Muerte are described as "surrealistic", which is a pity, as that word mostly implies "exclusive", "intellectual", "difficult". But they are not. Right; they don´t have any straight narrative, but they are still among the most realistic movies I have ever seen; "realistic" in the sense that they manage to get across an intense feeling/knowledge/insight of the place/story. I know Rimini of the 1930´s after seeing Amarcord! (At least I feel I do tongue.gif )

Caveat: I haven´t seen "I Will Walk Like A Crazy Horse" Viva la Muerte for years; I have just ordered the DVD, and I´m so curious to see if it is still as powerful.
(sorry for going rather off-topic here)
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QUOTE(The Adversary @ Thu 2nd October 2008, 2:36pm) *

Both Amarcord and "I Will Walk Like A Crazy Horse" are described as "surrealistic", which is a pity, as that word mostly implies "exclusive", "intellectual", "difficult". But they are not. Right; they don´t have any straight narrative, but they are still among the most realistic movies I have ever seen; "realistic" in the sense that they manage to get across an intense feeling/knowledge/insight of the place/story. I know Rimini of the 1930´s after seeing Amarcord! (At least I feel I do tongue.gif )

Caveat: I haven´t seen "Walk Like A Crazy Horse" for years; I have just ordered the DVD, and I´m so curious to see if it is still as powerful.
(sorry for going rather off-topic here)

I'll look for it. We're not in the lounge, but do not miss the film Babel if you haven't seen it. It is certainly not as dreamlike, but there's still that odd sense of suspention of judgementalism, and surreal connectedness between things not ordinarily connected. That you only get with Ayahuasca and a lot of less legal drugs smile.gif
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