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The Institute of Network Cultures maintains an engaging complex of activities, blogs, conferences, discussion groups, and assorted websites. A lot of what I read there is bit too much the Helium Hermenautical Armchair (HeHa) for my down-to-earth tastes, but I do see a concerted effort toward real understanding that is but rarely encountered these days.

I'll just collect a few links here —

Institute of Network Cultures : Main Portal

Society of the Query : Collaborative Research Blog

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CPOV was a rather moribund discussion list. Without you or me contributing, Jon, it's going to be that much more moribund, in an echo chamber. I won't be holding my breath for the "great shining moment" where they make a meaningful breakthrough in their field.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 19th July 2010, 9:22am) *

CPOV was a rather moribund discussion list. Without you or me contributing, Jon, it's going to be that much more moribund, in an echo chamber. I won't be holding my breath for the "great shining moment" where they make a meaningful breakthrough in their field.


You know me, The Infernal Optimist (TIO), I actually had a glimmer of hope that this group would earn their “C”. And no less a light than Seth Finkelstein had recently weighed in, so they had a chance of facing the facts from folks who've been forced to face them before.

Well, excuse me for being critical — It's a dirty job, and they sure ain't going to do it.

Just chalk it up to yet another Wikipedia-related failure of critical thinking.

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...I actually had a glimmer of hope that this group would earn their “C”. And no less a light than Seth Finkelstein had recently weighed in, so they had a chance of facing the facts from folks who've been forced to face them before.


It is also interesting to note, then, that Seth Finkelstein has also been removed by the "editorial committee" from the CPOV mailing list.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 19th July 2010, 10:45am) *

QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Mon 19th July 2010, 9:36am) *

I actually had a glimmer of hope that this group would earn their “C”. And no less a light than Seth Finkelstein had recently weighed in, so they had a chance of facing the facts from folks who've been forced to face them before.


It is also interesting to note, then, that Seth Finkelstein has also been removed by the "editorial committee" from the CPOV mailing list.


O My Prophetic Soul !!!

I had already called attention to the Banning Phenomenon — here and here — as being one of the chief features of a Not Especially Critical Point Of View (NECPOV).

Here is what I wrote in what would turn out to be my last post to the list:

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<CPOV> The Wikipedia Cult / Focal Problem / Banning

CPOViewers,

I've been meaning to get back to this exploration of focal problems in Wikipediatrics, but a couple of ongoing family crises have been keeping my wits scattered all over the map …

The perception that Wikipedism is far more cult-like in its basic character than anything advertised as a knowledge-oriented enterprise ought to be has of course arisen on many occasions, but here is a reminder of the occasion that we came in with this time around:

{{Links to Context}}
Re: cpov listcultures.org/2010-June/000185.html
Re: cpov listcultures.org/2010-June/000187.html
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That brings us to the focal problem of Banning, Shunning, Excommunicating …

If you look at the amount of time that Wikipedists devote to filtering out inputs from "taboo" or "unclean" sources, you can't help but admit that the practices of banning, blocking, censoring, excommunicating, shunning, and generally plugging their fingers in their ears is one of the most significant features, or bugs, of Wikipedism as a social system.

The question is — What's that all about?

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