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At one point, former Jimbo flame Rachel Marden's BLP was fully protected and carefully watched. Now, anyone can come along and pronounce her dead. Thankfully, a French IP responds to such vandalism as if changes were being automatically sent to Marsden's own Blackberry.

Today a French IP added some new information to the article. Marsden is apparently now an author:
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In November 2011, she published the book, American Bombshell: A Tale Of Domestic And International Invasion, described as a roman à clef.

Here's the synopsis of this self-published ebook from Amazon:
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In this breakthrough novel by political and media figure Rachel Marsden, Catherine Carson is the newest right-wing television star and co-host for America's top-rated television news network: BUX News. Carson, a former Republican strategist and Iraq War spin doctor, is known as a gifted sniper in both political backrooms and on-air verbal combat, but quickly discovers that no battle compares with those fought in the corridors of the television news giant. Suddenly leaving the network in a storm of speculation, she heads to Paris, France, on vacation – the last place anyone would expect to find an American right-wing opinion leader. A chance encounter leads to a new position advising the eccentric President of France, as Carson falls under the spell of the country's most popular politician – the President's nemesis – who seduces her into the biggest fight of her life, on the battlefield of love. In both work and romance, she wonders if she finally may have pursued her quest for adventure too far.





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Um...I don't think me making a comment about an anonymous IP would count as defamation. That's the thing about being anonymous on the internet. I can't exactly give an IP address a "negative image".
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QUOTE(Silver seren @ Mon 7th November 2011, 10:58am) *

Um...I don't think me making a comment about an anonymous IP would count as defamation. That's the thing about being anonymous on the internet. I can't exactly give an IP address a "negative image".


Yet readers can connect that IP address with a location and from there to Rachel Marsden. If your accusation is going to hurt anyone, then it's certainly going to hurt someone with a name.
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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 7th November 2011, 4:10pm) *

QUOTE(Silver seren @ Mon 7th November 2011, 10:58am) *

Um...I don't think me making a comment about an anonymous IP would count as defamation. That's the thing about being anonymous on the internet. I can't exactly give an IP address a "negative image".


Yet readers can connect that IP address with a location and from there to Rachel Marsden. If your accusation is going to hurt anyone, then it's certainly going to hurt someone with a name.


So, you know that that's her IP address and that she's in France? Readers have no way of connecting an IP address with anyone. Besides, isn't calling any IP or new accounts' edits vandalism then also defamation?
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QUOTE(Silver seren @ Mon 7th November 2011, 4:13pm) *

So, you know that that's her IP address and that she's in France? Readers have no way of connecting an IP address with anyone. Besides, isn't calling any IP or new accounts' edits vandalism then also defamation?

Well, I'm sure that when this thread appears on Rachel Marsden's Google alert, Rachel Marsden will read it over, and then Rachel Marsden will file a lawsuit against you from her home in France. The discovery phase of that lawsuit should quickly settle any doubts about who was using that IP and from where. Good luck, Silver!
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 7th November 2011, 5:09pm) *

QUOTE(Silver seren @ Mon 7th November 2011, 4:13pm) *

So, you know that that's her IP address and that she's in France? Readers have no way of connecting an IP address with anyone. Besides, isn't calling any IP or new accounts' edits vandalism then also defamation?

Well, I'm sure that when this thread appears on Rachel Marsden's Google alert, Rachel Marsden will read it over, and then Rachel Marsden will file a lawsuit against you from her home in France. The discovery phase of that lawsuit should quickly settle any doubts about who was using that IP and from where. Good luck, Silver!


Am I understanding you correctly - it is libel to claim that someone is massaging their Wikipedia BLP, because... ah... it can be proven that you have caused the subject real distress... um.. because the edits were... from their ip address?

I am not an expert on libel and slander, and nor do I play one at Scrabble, but I seem to recall that truth is a really good defence in such cases. Employing lawyers who are adept at joined up thinking is helpful, too.
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QUOTE(LessHorrid vanU @ Mon 7th November 2011, 8:38pm) *

Am I understanding you correctly - it is libel to claim that someone is massaging their Wikipedia BLP, because... ah... it can be proven that you have caused the subject real distress... um.. because the edits were... from their ip address?

Well, let's see. I started this thread with a title which clearly implies that Marsden is editing her BLP and has done so before. This section of the forum is not indexed by well-behaved search engines. You should probably take my statements about lawsuits with a grain of salt...
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 7th November 2011, 10:00pm) *

QUOTE(LessHorrid vanU @ Mon 7th November 2011, 8:38pm) *

Am I understanding you correctly - it is libel to claim that someone is massaging their Wikipedia BLP, because... ah... it can be proven that you have caused the subject real distress... um.. because the edits were... from their ip address?

Well, let's see. I started this thread with a title which clearly implies that Marsden is editing her BLP and has done so before. This section of the forum is not indexed by well-behaved search engines. You should probably take my statements about lawsuits with a grain of salt...


Ah. Yes.
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