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| Jonny Cache |
 Mon 24th September 2007, 2:10pm
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QUOTE(LamontStormstar @ Mon 24th September 2007, 3:41am)  I looked through Ryulong's contributions again. While he constantly deletes peoples' userpages of all except for those who request it like " Mrs random" of whom he will not delete her userpage. Well I saw on September 19th, Ryulong deleted sock puppet tags in mass claiming the mere essay WP:DENY supercedes the policy WP:SOCK. The socks were banned by Checkuser, too. This is only the latest in non-policy WP:DENY used as The Prime Directive. — I think that's Dragon-Dragon or ∑ting in cross-cult Japanese-Chinese bi-lingo — aka Hao Rong Ryu™, aka Denno Coil™, ¬2b≈? Denny Colt™, aka Baby Spice Pow-War Ranger™, aka Ichi-Ban-Trigger-Finger-O-Fate™, aka Mister Samurai Nite V'ger™, aka Tele-Tubby-Terminator-Three (TTT3)™, and no doubt a host of other e-pathetic e-pithets that I can't recall right now, is one of the Few, the Brave, the Proud™ who truly grok the OGIFT OGEEKS that Wikipedia is meant to be. Maybe that Sho™Gun name gives us a clue to his deep emersion in the SlumVassal Honor-&-Offer Code of Archaic Sho™Gunate Kultur. Maybe it's all those years he spent @ da φeet o' da Masters o' da Arcane Arcade Arts. Howevah imblued within his genes, wherevah he larned it in Trial By Drive By Fire, Flame, and FlameThroar™, it is clear that Drag-Goon Drag-Goon Ryulong is the genuwhine e-pitome of the ↑-&-Coming Suck Peeple that Jimbo hath made, as in O brave new world that has Suck Peeple in't!Jonny  This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Mon 24th September 2007, 2:36pm |
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| blissyu2 |
Mon 24th September 2007, 4:16pm
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That is an interesting proposal, and I think it has a flipside as well. WP:DENY should be addended with something like this: QUOTE Some people who are banned for spurious reasons have a right to disappear, and may not want to have their name associated with untrue allegations on Wikipedia, especially when their real name is used. In some cases this may amount to libel. There is no real reason to maintain lengthy pages on ANYONE who has since been banned. It does nothing more than to hurt the person in question, and try to push them towards "making Wikipedia pay" by subsequently doing something bad, even if they did nothing to deserve the ban in the first place.
Since people who do deserve it probably did it for attention, and hence shouldn't be "fed", therefore there is no rational positive reason to maintain such pages, which can be picked up by Google and quoted so easily. |
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| Castle Rock |
Mon 24th September 2007, 10:57pm
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QUOTE(LamontStormstar @ Mon 24th September 2007, 12:41am)
I looked through Ryulong's contributions again. While he constantly deletes peoples' userpages of all except for those who request it like "Mrs random" of whom he will not delete her userpage.
Well I saw on September 19th, Ryulong deleted sock puppet tags in mass claiming the mere essay WP:DENY supercedes the policy WP:SOCK. The socks were banned by Checkuser, too.
This is only the latest in non-policy WP:DENY used as The Prime Directive.
02:14, 19 September 2007 Ryulong (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:I had a threesome with NicholasTurnbull and Raul654" (WP:DENY) Ha ha ha. Since you're talking about Ryulong's mass deletion of Blu Aardvark sock pages, it's probably because Blu is inactive, and nearly all edits regarding those pages was by Anomo, doing what he does best, raising hell (the thing he did using the real names of admins was pretty funny). I think it's perfectly reasonable now that Blu has demonstrated that he is gone for all those pages to be deleted, for the reasons Blissyu2 stated. WP:SOCK doesn't say that sockpuppet pages have to be kept forever, just that you can't use socks abusively WP:DENY is a common sense idea. There is no real need to keep track of hundred of accounts that were just throw-aways or attack names. Doing so only gives attention, an example being the attention given to Cplot and his thousand sock army. This post has been edited by Castle Rock: Mon 24th September 2007, 10:59pm |
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| Jonny Cache |
Tue 25th September 2007, 2:55am
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QUOTE(Castle Rock @ Mon 24th September 2007, 6:57pm) QUOTE(LamontStormstar @ Mon 24th September 2007, 12:41am)
I looked through Ryulong's contributions again. While he constantly deletes peoples' userpages of all except for those who request it like "Mrs random" of whom he will not delete her userpage.
Well I saw on September 19th, Ryulong deleted sock puppet tags in mass claiming the mere essay WP:DENY supercedes the policy WP:SOCK. The socks were banned by Checkuser, too.
This is only the latest in non-policy WP:DENY used as The Prime Directive.
02:14, 19 September 2007 Ryulong (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:I had a threesome with NicholasTurnbull and Raul654" (WP:DENY) Ha ha ha. Since you're talking about Ryulong's mass deletion of Blu Aardvark sock pages, it's probably because Blu is inactive, and nearly all edits regarding those pages was by Anomo, doing what he does best, raising hell (the thing he did using the real names of admins was pretty funny). I think it's perfectly reasonable now that Blu has demonstrated that he is gone for all those pages to be deleted, for the reasons Blissyu2 stated. WP:SOCK doesn't say that sockpuppet pages have to be kept forever, just that you can't use socks abusively WP:DENY is a common sense idea. There is no real need to keep track of hundred of accounts that were just throw-aways or attack names. Doing so only gives attention, an example being the attention given to Cplot and his thousand sock army. Guys, Guys, Guys, you're not really a full-blooded Adminion until you've given Caesarean Birth to your WP:VERYOWN policy, or at least raised some Poor Orphan Pup of an Ess(j)ay to the Status of Holy Terror and JunkYardChihuahua for All Occasions. Jonny This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Tue 25th September 2007, 2:58am |
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| Piperdown |
Tue 25th September 2007, 3:26am
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QUOTE(Castle Rock @ Tue 25th September 2007, 3:20am) Since this is apparently a Ryluong thread, I just saw this Ryulong blocks CattleGirl for "no constructive changes to the encyclopedia in a month". Just one problem, she is an administrator! Oops. I had one brief encounter with Ryulong and guess what it was. A knee-jerk half-cocked reflex edit that blanked, then pretended it was a failed attempt to reorganize it. My impression was of a very over-stimulated videogame addict who confused the admin keys on his wikiboard with the shootemup keys on his playstation. It was over something about Miami U. as I recall, which must have been his home team or something. He did offer a quick apology. Everything is quick with that guy. |
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| Derktar |
Tue 25th September 2007, 3:35am
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QUOTE(Castle Rock @ Mon 24th September 2007, 8:20pm) Since this is apparently a Ryluong thread, I just saw this Ryulong blocks CattleGirl for "no constructive changes to the encyclopedia in a month". Just one problem, she is an administrator! Oops. Damn, I guess I'm next! After the millions of other accounts that haven't been touched in months... QUOTE In a cursory check of your contributions, I mistakenly took you for one of those users who treat Wikipedia like a social networking website, and pressed "block" without noticing your administrative duties. I am terribly sorry, and I have undone everything concerning this action.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC) Great Scott! I think he's on to something. This post has been edited by Derktar: Tue 25th September 2007, 3:41am |
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| Jonny Cache |
Tue 25th September 2007, 3:52am
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QUOTE(Derktar @ Mon 24th September 2007, 11:35pm) QUOTE(Castle Rock @ Mon 24th September 2007, 8:20pm) Since this is apparently a Ryluong thread, I just saw this Ryulong blocks CattleGirl for "no constructive changes to the encyclopedia in a month". Just one problem, she is an administrator! Oops. Damn, I guess I'm next! After the millions of other accounts that haven't been touched in months... QUOTE
In a cursory check of your contributions, I mistakenly took you for one of those users who treat Wikipedia like a social networking website, and pressed "block" without noticing your administrative duties. I am terribly sorry, and I have undone everything concerning this action.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC).
Great Scott! I think he's on to something. This from a WikiPhage who eats up Gigabytes of Server Space arguing with other arcade aficionadas about the macron macaroni that belongs over each and every vowel of the Ten Thousand Animangame characters. Jonny |
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| Jonny Cache |
Tue 25th September 2007, 12:30pm
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QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Tue 25th September 2007, 1:52am) QUOTE(The Joy @ Tue 25th September 2007, 1:48am) I've noticed that everyking is now asking Ryulong why he did what he did. How much does anyone want to bet everyking will get a "less-than-satisfying" answer? - Comment will be ignored
- Comment will be blanked
- He'll be told to stop trolling
- Others will tell everyking to stop trolling their favorite vandal fighter. Jimbo be praised!
- everyking will be blocked and insulted
- Other_______?
No doubt there will be some e-lusive mention of unmentionable websites as a part of the obligatory oubliette-threatening ritual. Jonny Do I have to splain everyting to youse guys? Please don't be distracted by yet another variation on the standard opening pawn move. The real reason why Booby Spice Pow-War Ringer Hao Rong Ryu did what it did had nothing to do with the particular target of opportunity that it chose to range its guns on the first time out of the box. It's what WikiPugilists would call a φeint — or to put it in their more preferred template-talk: {{ TEST }}Keep yer ears tuned — the other shew is about to drop — Maybe ¬today … maybe ¬tomorrow … but soon … and you know the rest — Or you should … by now … Jonny This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Tue 25th September 2007, 12:32pm |
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