Wikipe-tan, lolicon FTW Options

[Tarc]

So, if anyone's interested, the issue of the Japanese loli mascot has come up again. Started off with an MfD on a joke-ish "think of the children" page; Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Think of Wikipe-tan! (T-H-L-K-D), spilled into ANI, attempts to remove its usage from everywhere, etc...

[Jon Awbrey]

This has been discussed a lot recently, especially in connection with the sexism issue, but if you want to know what it's really about, you can think of it as the Wikipediot analogue of Joe Camel.

Jon (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

[Jon Awbrey]

This has been discussed a lot recently, especially in connection with the sexism issue, but if you want to know what it's really about, you can think of it as the Wikipediot analogue of Joe Camel.

Jon (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

Oh, I guess it was on Facebook that we were having the big discussion of Wikipe-tan.

(IMG:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Wikipe_tan_wearing_a_bikini_by_Kasuga39.png)

I don't know if this will work, but here is the link to the Facebook thread.

Jon (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

[victim of censorship]

This has been discussed a lot recently, especially in connection with the sexism issue, but if you want to know what it's really about, you can think of it as the Wikipediot analogue of Joe Camel.

Jon (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

Oh, I guess it was on Facebook that we were having the big discussion of Wikipe-tan.

(IMG:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Wikipe_tan_wearing_a_bikini_by_Kasuga39.png)

I don't know if this will work, but here is the link to the Facebook thread.

Jon (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

Out of the mouth of babes you get truth.
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[bi-winning]

Out of the mouth of babes you get truth.
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It's funny because it's true. Except who the hell is Joe???

[carbuncle]

It's funny because it's true. Except who the hell is Joe???

"Uncle Joe" Stalin, whose ghost haunts WP, causing edit conflicts and SVG rendering problems.

[bi-winning]

It's funny because it's true. Except who the hell is Joe???

"Uncle Joe" Stalin, whose ghost haunts WP, causing edit conflicts and SVG rendering problems.

Damn communists.

I withdraw all my IP property from the ATM machine. Keeps it safe from Wikipedia.

[Doc glasgow]

Does this image serve to create a "sexist environment"? Is it inappropriate?


It is up for deletion here.


Discuss....



(Sorry, don't know how to upload the image directly here, can someone else do it?)

[thekohser]

Discuss....

Derrick Coatzee was the first to vote "Keep".

This is Derrick Coatzee. Recognize the Erik Moeller-style grin?

Derrick Coatzee would welcome self-avowed pedophiles to Wikipedia.

Derrick Coatzee also thinks it's okay to steal high-resolution images from other organizations.

Class dismissed.

[Doc glasgow]

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Derrick Coatzee also thinks it's okay to steal high-resolution images from other organizations.

It's OK, the NPG have been stealing from Wikipedia in return.

[lilburne]

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Derrick Coatzee also thinks it's okay to steal high-resolution images from other organizations.

It's OK, the NPG have been stealing from Wikipedia in return.

Problem is you don't have copyright on any of that.

(b London, May 1617; d London, July 1694). English painter. He was the son of James Wright, a tailor, and from 1636 to 1641 was apprenticed to the Edinburgh portrait painter George Jamesone. In the early 1640s he left Scotland for Rome, where he painted his earliest known portrait, Robert Bruce, 1st Earl of Ailesbury (Tottenham House, Wilts, Marquess of Ailesbury priv. col.).

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/john-wright#ixzz1HXyTsy7n

The above is from "Oxford Grove Art"

Born in May 1617, he was the son of a tailor names James Wright. Between 1636 and 1641 John Wright was apprenticed to George Jamesone an Edinburgh portrait painter. He travelled from Scotland to Rome in the 1640s, and there he produced his earliest known portrait: Robert Bruce, 1st Earl of Ailesbury (currently in Marquess of Ailesbury's private collection in Tottenham House).[1]

And the above is from our own good Doc.

[Doc glasgow]

Problem is you don't have copyright on any of that.

(b London, May 1617; d London, July 1694). English painter. He was the son of James Wright, a tailor, and from 1636 to 1641 was apprenticed to the Edinburgh portrait painter George Jamesone. In the early 1640s he left Scotland for Rome, where he painted his earliest known portrait, Robert Bruce, 1st Earl of Ailesbury (Tottenham House, Wilts, Marquess of Ailesbury priv. col.).

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/john-wright#ixzz1HXyTsy7n

The above is from "Oxford Grove Art"

Born in May 1617, he was the son of a tailor names James Wright. Between 1636 and 1641 John Wright was apprenticed to George Jamesone an Edinburgh portrait painter. He travelled from Scotland to Rome in the 1640s, and there he produced his earliest known portrait: Robert Bruce, 1st Earl of Ailesbury (currently in Marquess of Ailesbury's private collection in Tottenham House).[1]

And the above is from our own good Doc.

My information came from the Grove Art dictionary, which was acknowledged in the footnote. There's only a certain number of ways of recording that information.

The NPG acknowledged no source whatsoever and indeed claimed the work as its own. It also used a far more sophisticated version of the text, which I created from information from multiple sources. So, yes, in any fair estimation I DO own the copyright. The NPG are, naturally, free to use it under the Wikipedia CC licence - but they are required to acknowledge the source.

[lilburne]

Problem is you don't have copyright on any of that.

(b London, May 1617; d London, July 1694). English painter. He was the son of James Wright, a tailor, and from 1636 to 1641 was apprenticed to the Edinburgh portrait painter George Jamesone. In the early 1640s he left Scotland for Rome, where he painted his earliest known portrait, Robert Bruce, 1st Earl of Ailesbury (Tottenham House, Wilts, Marquess of Ailesbury priv. col.).

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/john-wright#ixzz1HXyTsy7n

The above is from "Oxford Grove Art"

Born in May 1617, he was the son of a tailor names James Wright. Between 1636 and 1641 John Wright was apprenticed to George Jamesone an Edinburgh portrait painter. He travelled from Scotland to Rome in the 1640s, and there he produced his earliest known portrait: Robert Bruce, 1st Earl of Ailesbury (currently in Marquess of Ailesbury's private collection in Tottenham House).[1]

And the above is from our own good Doc.

My information came from the Grove Art dictionary, which was acknowledged in the footnote. There's only a certain number of ways of recording that information.

As such there is no WMF copyright on the text at all. It resides totally with Grove Art and for all you know they well have an arrangement with the NPG, or the NPG may well have provided Grove Art with the original text.

The NPG acknowledged no source whatsoever and indeed claimed the work as its own. It also used a far more sophisticated version of the text, which I created from information from multiple sources. So, yes, in any fair estimation I DO own the copyright. The NPG are, naturally, free to use it under the Wikipedia CC licence - but they are required to acknowledge the source.

Again you do not have copyright on the text. Cobbling together bits of text from various sources does not give you copyright, unless you are claiming copyright by dint of sweat of brow, which is of course exactly what you have denied that the NPG is entitled to do.

[Doc glasgow]

Dcoetzee and the "OMG no censorship" strike again - I mean we must save the kiddie-porn.

Disgusting. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/yecch.gif)

[tarantino]

Dcoetzee and the "OMG no censorship" strike again - I mean we must save the kiddie-porn.

Disgusting. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/yecch.gif)

I again fell the need to point out that Dcoetzee proclaims he is a polyamorous pansexual who advocates the legalization of consensual fucking by close family members.

[EricBarbour]

I again fell the need to point out that Dcoetzee proclaims he is a polyamorous pansexual who advocates the legalization of consensual fucking by close family members.

Wikipedia! No matter how crazy you are, we welcome you!

( (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) Just suck up to Jimbo, and you're a-okay. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/yecch.gif) )

[thekohser]

I again fell the need to point out that Dcoetzee proclaims he is a polyamorous pansexual who advocates the legalization of consensual fucking by close family members.

Wikipedia! No matter how crazy you are, we welcome you!

( (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) Just suck up to Jimbo, and you're a-okay. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/yecch.gif) )

And if you steal enough photos from the National Portrait Gallery, you'll even be rewarded with a one-on-one with SpiderHands!

[carbuncle]

I again fell the need to point out that Dcoetzee proclaims he is a polyamorous pansexual who advocates the legalization of consensual fucking by close family members.

Wikipedia! No matter how crazy you are, we welcome you!

( (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) Just suck up to Jimbo, and you're a-okay. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/yecch.gif) )

And if you steal enough photos from the National Portrait Gallery, you'll even be rewarded with a one-on-one with SpiderHands!

I note that she made sure there was a physical barrier between them, and keys within reach should she need a weapon. Joking. Of course.

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