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The Return of the Scarlet Turd Burglar, ....hide your tp & don't spare a square |
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QUOTE(Alison @ Sun 28th September 2008, 8:32pm) QUOTE(Shalom @ Sun 28th September 2008, 12:13pm) Wait, are you telling me that JzG redirecting "Turd burglar" to "gay" was not complete nonsense? Serious question.
Where I'm from, I've certainly heard the term being used to refer to a gay male. Think about it (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif) As WW says, it's akin to 'shirtlifter'. More akin to chutney ferret. (Thinks, not a path I should be going down really). I seem to recall, though, that it was not the redirect but the context, a bit like Guy claiming calling people c**ts was perfectly acceptable English behaviour (plenty of women here still find the term really offensive.
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QUOTE(Random832 @ Sun 28th September 2008, 7:43pm) Also - in context, JzG was just trying to protect the title from a series of silly articles that had been created at that title.
um, wrong answer. there's other ways to protect a title. I wonder what JzG's opinions on "gay" men is. Re-directing turd burglar to gay is not very nice, to say the least. that redirect would be akin to "nappy headed ho's" being redirected to that ladies basketball team's article that was involved in the Don Imus scandal. Or let's say, "coon" or "jigaboo" being redirected to "Negro". Pitchforks and torches would run off any editor who did such a thing. If it was redirected to a subsection or stub on the properly referenced sources of insulting names, that's a different story. If it was redirect to section of "insulting names for homosexuals" and not just "gay", that would be different. I think "gay" is socially acceptable and relatively positive to all walks of life. Although many straight old-timers who like to refer to good times as "gay" are still not happy about its adoption by the homosexual community I've heard. That redirect implies that turd burglar is an acceptable and definite synonym for "gay". I'd imagine to someone that's gay, it's horribly offensive to present it that way. If I were to enter "coon" in wikipedia and it brought up the Negro article, that would be terrible. Isnt' JzG an ultra-macho kickass Church Deacon? I'd wager he doesn't approve of gay at all, and that redirect was done with malice. QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Sun 28th September 2008, 7:39pm) a bit like Guy claiming calling people c**ts was perfectly acceptable English behaviour (plenty of women here still find the term really offensive.
its funny ain't it? all these uberrighteous lady admins like slimmy feigning offences, while davy and jzg go round using the most offensive word that exists to most women i've known. maybe those women aren't from his pub and just aren't culturally hip to whats acceptable these days. This post has been edited by Piperdown:
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QUOTE(Piperdown @ Sun 28th September 2008, 11:45am) Turd Burglar has somehow found its way into here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminology_of_homosexualityHuh? A turd burglar isn't a sexual reference at all is it? Doesn't it refer to someone who accidentally bursts into someone else's occupied toilet room/stall? Homosexuality? Did someone try to apologise for JzG's mishomogyny gaff? Help me understand, all you unhip slangsters out there I believe "turd burglar" was in that list long before JzG's "gaff." Which wasn't so much a gaff at all, as it is a slang term, especially in the UK. And I pointed out at the time, his big mistake was redirecting it to "Gay" and not the proper "Terminology of homosexuality." Nobody paid me any attention. Anyway, the slang is something along the joke line of "Can I push in your stool for you?" (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif) How offensive it is, depends on who says it and if they smile when they say it, like faggot and bugger and so on and so on. And the N word, too. Many insults are situation-dependent. But I'm pretty sure "mishomogyny" isn't a word, unless it refers to dislike of lebians. This post has been edited by Milton Roe:
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QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Sun 28th September 2008, 8:39pm) More akin to chutney ferret. (Thinks, not a path I should be going down really). I seem to recall, though, that it was not the redirect but the context, a bit like Guy claiming calling people c**ts was perfectly acceptable English behaviour (plenty of women here still find the term really offensive.
It most indubitably is not acceptable in most parts of England. Where does this Guy hang out? What does he hang out?
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QUOTE(Alison @ Sun 28th September 2008, 9:32pm) QUOTE(Shalom @ Sun 28th September 2008, 12:13pm) Wait, are you telling me that JzG redirecting "Turd burglar" to "gay" was not complete nonsense? Serious question.
Where I'm from, I've certainly heard the term being used to refer to a gay male. Think about it (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif) As WW says, it's akin to 'shirtlifter'. Very common in Aussie slang, too. But is it entierly necessary to redirect it to [[Gay]]? [[Homophobia]] may have been more appropriate.
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