Eva Destruction   Advisory Council on Project Development  
Nerd   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbit...  
Sarcasticidealist   1. The state of governance on Wikipedia is such th...  
Nerd   1. The state of governance on Wikipedia is such t...  
Sarcasticidealist   I don't follow that logic.That's because i...  
Nerd   This is just a front anyway. For what? The Troj...  
Sarcasticidealist   It's a pretence that arbcom actually care abou...  
GlassBeadGame   I don't follow that logic.That's because ...  
Kelly Martin   If this group plans to conduct its business somewh...  
Sarcasticidealist   I'd consider volunteering except that they...  
Kelly Martin   Also, why would you consider volunteering? To acc...  
Eva Destruction   FWIW, I think Kelly (or Greg, for that matter) wou...  
Sarcasticidealist   FWIW, I think Kelly (or Greg, for that matter) wou...  
Malleus   FWIW, I think Kelly (or Greg, for that matter) wou...  
thekohser   [quote name='Eva Destruction' post='182965' date=...  
MZMcBride   Believe me -- in the short term, I'm delighte...  
thekohser   Until Wikipedia's usefulness can be replaced ...  
Nerd   Until Wikipedia's usefulness can be replaced...  
Malleus   Until Wikipedia's usefulness can be replaced...  
Malleus   She's not 10. But, no... you haven't ups...  
Kelly Martin   But I believe that Kelly has a self-admitted histo...  
Sarcasticidealist   I've always acted in good faith with respect t...  
GlassBeadGame   I've always acted in good faith with respect ...  
Kelly Martin   I thought you'd characterized your motivations...  
Guido den Broeder   It's a move in the wrong direction, a futile a...  
Cla68   Obviously, a council such as this one, without any...  
Cedric   http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc358/WRCedric/...  
Milton Roe   http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc358/WRCedric...  
NuclearWarfare   For those who haven't seen it yet, there is no...  
Kelly Martin   For those who haven't seen it yet, there is n...  
everyking   This is junk. An advisory council to the ArbCom? W...  
Kelly Martin   This is junk. An advisory council to the ArbCom? W...  
everyking   [quote name='everyking' post='183003' date='Fri 1...  
Sarcasticidealist   I proposed a much superior alternative yesterday--...  
everyking   I proposed a much superior alternative yesterday-...  
sbrown   If the ArbCom created such a committee itself, de...  
Sarcasticidealist   If the ArbCom created such a committee itself, dec...  
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitr...  
Somey   [quote name='Eva Destruction' post='182947' date='...  
Kelly Martin   The whole thing is too vague anyway. If they'r...  
Eva Destruction   The whole thing is too vague anyway. If they...  
toddy   Am I the only one who finds the fact that this ...  
LaraLove   I'm to the point that I want to see change any...  
Eva Destruction   I'm to the point that I want to see change an...  
Somey   Well, you can't please everyone, particularly ...  
Eva Destruction   The [i]last thing you'd want to do is have th...  
Kelly Martin   I did not see this coming. Protest resignation? K...  
Cla68   [quote name='Eva Destruction' post='183176' date=...  
LessHorrid vanU   [quote name='Eva Destruction' post='183176' date...  
Nerd   Heh. Let's hope they all quit. [quote name='...  
everyking   Heh. Let's hope they all quit. [quote name=...  
Kelly Martin   How about the remaining arbitrators acknowledge th...  
thekohser   Looking back at the events so far, I'd say th...  
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='Kelly Martin' post='183237' date='Sa...  
Nerd   Then we would watch Wikipedia quickly unravel. ...  
thekohser   Then we would watch Wikipedia quickly unravel. ...  
everyking   How about the remaining arbitrators acknowledge t...  
Kelly Martin   On the contrary, I think the idea of reforming Wik...  
No one of consequence   On the contrary, I think the idea of reforming Wi...  
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Has there ever been a truly independent, external ...  
Somey   ...People either think Wikipedia needs genuine ref...  
Orderinchaos   Glad to see them go. How about the remaining arbi...  
LessHorrid vanU   Glad to see them go. How about the remaining arb...  
Orderinchaos   My eyes simply glazed over as soon as I read your...  
Sarcasticidealist   Another one bites the dust. Heh. Let's hope t...  
Nerd   [quote name='Nerd' post='183185' date='Sat 11th J...  
GlassBeadGame   Why any group would want an "advisory council...  
Kelly Martin   The whole point of an advisory council is to provi...  
Somey   Surely there are online communities with expertise...  
Somey   I don't think it's all that surprising tha...  
taiwopanfob   Matisse bitterly complains that Kirill is acting i...  
Kelly Martin   Curiously, he then goes to Kirill, post-resignatio...  
LaraLove   I'm to the point that I want to see change a...  
Peter Damian   Will it surprise everyone here when I say I am bro...  
GlassBeadGame   Will it surprise everyone here when I say I am br...  
Kelly Martin   ArbCom's disappearance would probably have som...  
Tony1   The Advisory Council is unconstitutional, because ...  
taiwopanfob   The Advisory Council is unconstitutional, because...  
Kelly Martin   The Advisory Council is unconstitutional, because...  
Sarcasticidealist   The ArbCom, like everyone else in Wikipedia, may d...  
trenton   Meh, the typical wikipedia clusterfuck. Special a...  
Eight   So Kirill and Coren have both resigned. Anyone els...  
Eva Destruction   So Kirill and Coren have both resigned. Anyone el...  
Eight   So Kirill and Coren have both resigned. Anyone e...  
everyking   The most revealing aspect of the RfC, in my view, ...  
Cla68   Like I said before, if the ArbCom really wants to ...  
EricBarbour   People seem to be missing the between-the-lines pa...  
Peter Damian   Peter Damian or Greg Kohs will not destroy Wikipe...  
Cla68   People seem to be missing the between-the-lines p...  
Eva Destruction   People seem to be missing the between-the-lines p...  
Cla68   [quote name='EricBarbour' post='183468' date='Mon...  
Eva Destruction   [quote name='Eva Destruction' post='183478' date=...  
Cla68   As I've said on Wikipedia, I think Slim is rig...  
everyking   As I've said on Wikipedia, I think Slim is ri...  
Cla68   [quote name='Cla68' post='183521' date='Mon 13th ...  
everyking   [quote name='Cla68' post='183521' date='Mon 13th...  
GlassBeadGame   Surely the council is not going to just coolly ...  
thekohser   The community has spoken and its voice is unambig...  
A Horse With No Name   Just a point of order: does anyone on Wikipedia ha...  
Obesity   Just a point of order: does anyone on Wikipedia h...  
A Horse With No Name   Jayjg is in his 40s and works "in managemen...  
Obesity   Jayjg is in his 40s and works "in manageme...  
A Horse With No Name   [quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='183509' ...  
Obesity   [quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='183509'...  
A Horse With No Name   Go away, Ottava. I hate you. Oh, but I like yo...  
Kelly Martin   Just a point of order: does anyone on Wikipedia ha...  
Sarcasticidealist   Just a point of order: does anyone on Wikipedia ha...  
trenton   These grapes, they are so sour, I wouldn't eat...  
Kato   These [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti...  
Moulton   Things fall apart; the center cannot hold. It...  
Sarcasticidealist   It's become increasingly apparent to sober obs...  
Moulton   I've said the same things many times before. ...  
trenton   I find this little comment from King Jimbeau quite...  
Moulton   Yes. I think it's a good idea. It's an adv...  
LaraLove   [quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='183504' ...  
A Horse With No Name   I work in restaurant management. Does that count? ...  
Obesity   Only if you're on the menu! :wub: Horsey...  
LaraLove   Only if you're on the menu! :wub: Horse...  
Mackan   I think the heart of the problem is that the Counc...  
everyking   [quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='183504'...  
A Horse With No Name   Fine, let the record show that you have sided ag...  
EricBarbour   Fine, let the record show that you have sided agai...  
everyking   Fine, let the record show that you have sided aga...  
Sarcasticidealist   Oh, is this a "silent majority" kind of ...  
Kelly Martin   The majority of the community is wrong.The majorit...  
EricBarbour   The majority of the community doesn't give a s...  
trenton   (oops, the bitch deleted it. Ha ha ha. Such a sen...  
EricBarbour   [quote name='EricBarbour' post='183697' date='Mon ...  
A Horse With No Name   [quote name='EricBarbour' post='183697' date='Mon...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='EricBarbour' post='183697' date='Mon...  
gomi   I posted my comment in the RFC, if nothing else so...  
A Horse With No Name   Amusing, to say the least. It lasted for all of ...  
Kato   The majority of the community is wrong.The majori...  
everyking   [quote name='Kelly Martin' post='183694' date='Mo...  
endallbeall   The majority of the community is wrong.The majori...  
Sarcasticidealist   For what it's worth, I don't believe that ...  
thekohser   For what it's worth, I don't believe that...  
One   You do know that the WR mods have determined it i...  
Cla68   I do. In my experience, companies and nonprofits...  
EricBarbour   In fact, I'm tempted to add a statement of my ...  
everyking   In fact, I'm tempted to add a statement of my...  
EricBarbour   OK, so if we exclude SV and Durova for no good rea...  
Sarcasticidealist   What do you think should happen if you're righ...  
EricBarbour   This is Wikipedia: nobody prevails. Beg to differ,...  
Moulton   ArbCom is well aware that it receives conduct case...  
Kelly Martin   What I find really interesting in reading the comm...  
everyking   What I find really interesting in reading the com...  
Kelly Martin   Kelly, I hear the ArbCom is now considering applic...  
Cla68   Hmmm. SV, while you're in the mood for ...  
Kelly Martin   I think you have some more productive things to do...  
TungstenCarbide   Kelly, I hear the ArbCom is now considering appli...  
Kelly Martin   I just tried to email Casliber about it, but he l...  
A Horse With No Name   Well, in NYB's case I'm sure he thinks tha...  
jayvdb   [quote name='everyking' post='183702' date='Mon 1...  
Kelly Martin   Self-nominations are better sent to arbcom-l unles...  
jayvdb   I don't send things to arbcom-l because in th...  
Kelly Martin   I think that you should back up your assertions ab...  
Sarcasticidealist   I'd settle for courtesy blanking of the variou...  
MBisanz   [quote name='Kelly Martin' post='184104' date='We...  
Sarcasticidealist   :noooo: Steve, when you blank an RFx you need to ...  
Kelly Martin   :noooo: Steve, when you blank an RFx you need to r...  
EricBarbour   :noooo: Steve, when you blank an RFx you need to ...  
Tennis expert   I've courtesy blanked the RFCs. Interesting....  
MZMcBride   I've courtesy blanked the RFCs. Interesting...  
Kevin   [quote name='Tennis expert' post='184288' date='T...  
jayvdb   [quote name='jayvdb' post='184098' date='Wed 15th ...  
Kelly Martin   You have taken the liberty to say what Casliber be...  
One   My discussions with NYB were in private IRC chat,...  
Cedric   Oh, and in addendum I see that Slimmy is going af...  
One   What I find really interesting in reading the com...  
Milton Roe   There are two problems with "consensus...  
A Horse With No Name   Y'know, the main reason I voted in favor of ...  
Cla68   Rootology just asked SV to come clean about all of...  
Kelly Martin   Anyway, I think the heat and drama are starting to...  
Sarcasticidealist   The only people resisting this idea are the people...  
Cla68   The only people resisting this idea are the peopl...  
Eva Destruction   [quote name='Sarcasticidealist' post='183771' dat...  
Sarcasticidealist   While some of you will disagree, I'd put Durov...  
A Horse With No Name   I probably should have specified that I don't ...  
LaraLove   I probably should have specified that I don't...  
Somey   ...I don't know enough about Durova's and ...  
Eva Destruction   [quote name='Sarcasticidealist' post='183827' dat...  
A Horse With No Name   You've missed out my motivation for opposing ...  
Kelly Martin   makes it pretty clear that he intends this group t...  
Cla68   You've missed out my motivation for opposing i...  
Orderinchaos   The only people resisting this idea are the peopl...  
A Horse With No Name   I really don't either - I neither have ...  
Orderinchaos   I really don't either - I neither have ...  
Kato   My proposal is : bring in experts (as in real one...  
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   My proposal is : bring in experts (as in real ones...  
A Horse With No Name   Sadly, even if there was some legal-financial cri...  
Cla68   LOL... I'm not wishy washy on my opposition t...  
A Horse With No Name   By the way, excellent work on this essay. Does ...  
Orderinchaos   By the way, excellent work on this essay. Thank...  
Kelly Martin   [quote name='Kelly Martin' post='183770' date='Tu...  
A Horse With No Name   Hey, I just want to see you idiots fix your hate-s...  
Milton Roe   Hey, I just want to see you idiots fix your hate-...  
A Horse With No Name   You're thinking of CB. Ham is hard. You can ...  
Kelly Martin   No, I am thinking ham -- I know the difference. I...  
A Horse With No Name   No, I am thinking ham -- I know the difference. ...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='Kelly Martin' post='183909' date='Tu...  
Cla68   I think the objection from the parties named above...  
EricBarbour   She doesn't want to see ArbCom enlarge their r...  
Kelly Martin   The problem is not her, the problem is the long li...  
everyking   I think the objection from the parties named abov...  
Cla68   [quote name='Cla68' post='183953' date='Tue 14th ...  
everyking   [quote name='Cla68' post='183953' date='Tue 14th...  
Kelly Martin   It's about the ArbCom's unilateral decisio...  
gelugor   It's interesting how no non-member has yet pos...  
gomi   [i]blah, blah, blah failure to heed the community...  
Kato   What exactly are you afraid of? ...becoming irrel...  
One   blah, blah, blah failure to heed the community...  
LaraLove   [quote name='everyking' post='184012' date='Tue 1...  
everyking   [quote name='everyking' post='184012' date='Tue 1...  
Kelly Martin   It's incorrect to say the community rejected m...  
Casliber   Kelly, I hear the ArbCom is now considering appli...  
LaraLove   "Turbulent tyrants"? The ArbCom announc...  
LaraLove   You've missed out my motivation for opposing ...  
Eva Destruction   [quote name='Eva Destruction' post='183881' date=...  
LaraLove   You don't need to convince me of that (hell, ...  
EricBarbour   Of course, no way on earth this will happen. Thank...  
A Horse With No Name   That system is broken, because it's dominated...  
Eva Destruction   Of course, no way on earth this will happen. Than...  
A Horse With No Name   I've been there and already said my piece on ...  
Eva Destruction   I've been there and already said my piece on...  
Nerd   [quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='183954' ...  
Milton Roe   This is how the community damns itself. Regardles...  
Moulton   Wikipedia is too far gone to be able to evolve int...  
LaraLove   Jimbo did put his foot in this mouth with his ...  
EricBarbour   EK: either you're totally delusional, or SV is...  
everyking   They can't even agree on what to discuss! ...  
Cla68   They can't even agree on what to discuss...  
everyking   [quote name='everyking' post='184248' date='Thu 1...  
Cla68   [quote name='everyking' post='184248' date='Thu ...  
everyking   [quote name='everyking' post='184251' date='Thu 1...  
Kelly Martin   By the way, jayvdb, I just noticed that I'm on...  
jayvdb   By the way, jayvdb, I just noticed that I'm o...  
trenton   All that's left for this drama-fest to be comp...  
Apathetic   All that's left for this drama-fest to be com...  
MBisanz   All that's left for this drama-fest to be com...  
Giano   [quote name='trenton' post='184396' date='Thu 16t...  
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='trenton' post='184396' date='Thu 16...  
Nerd   [quote name='trenton' post='184396' date='Thu 16t...  
everyking   [quote name='trenton' post='184396' date='Thu 16t...  
trenton   I like how Durova makes a big deal about not makin...  
Kelly Martin   I like how Durova makes a big deal about not maki...  
Cla68   I like how Durova makes a big deal about not mak...  
LaraLove   I like how Durova makes a big deal about not maki...  
Kelly Martin   I don't see the point of refactoring. It's...  
Casliber   Right then - my eyes have gotten bleary from catch...