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| LaraLove |
 Mon 26th January 2009, 3:17pm
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http://blog.wikimedia.org/2009/01/21/a-not...ity-initiative/In the latest Wikimedia blog post, Naoko Komura states that " Daniel [Phelps] collected a dozen bids for the space in [South of Market area of San Francisco], and Wikia matched the best offer." Gregory Kohs takes "best offer" to mean "lowest offer" and asks for some answers. Erik Moller says, among other things, "We've suggested to Wikia a fair market rate based on the average of the other options we obtained; After some negotiation, Wikia accepted." This prompts David Levy to ask, "To clarify, did Wikia match the lowest bid?" Erik says no. They used "averaging" to determine a number based on the cost and advantages of other spaces. And not only did the WMF not match the lowest bid, but they're actually a little higher than a comparable space. Then Thomas Dalton starts asking questions, believing this does not look good for a non-profit and that it isn't something that would fly under UK law. Komura responds, saying "W[ikia's] asking price was more than X [the "best offer"], but we said our offer price would not be more than the price quoted by X. So, W evaluated if they can rent out space higher than our offer price. As there was no higher bidder than us, W had agreed to offer the space at our offer price." So Erik says Wikia's offer was more than the comparable space, which is assumed to be "X", which contradicted the blog post by Komura, who then responds again stating that it was a match in price. David noticed this as well and again asked for clarification. And then it degrades into name-calling and other middle school-like crap typical of the project. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/found...ary/049340.html
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| Kato |
Mon 26th January 2009, 3:28pm
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| dogbiscuit |
Mon 26th January 2009, 4:13pm
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Could you run through Verifiability not Truth once more?
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From the blog: QUOTE administrative resource such as HR and Finance are shared Then there is this wonderful bit of IT logic: QUOTE On the tech collaboration front, we are not treating Wikia’s development work as the solution. Their work is one of the modified MediaWiki we are evaluating along with what’s out there such as deki, uniwiki and numerous extensions developed by MediaWiki developers. The project team will produce its own code, but if the solution is out there already, why not collaborate, incorporate, and make it available for existing and next users of MediaWiki? Isn’t that an open source project all about? Everyone knows that if you embed one supplier in your company, you will not be evaluating the different solutions neutrally.   |
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| EricBarbour |
Tue 27th January 2009, 1:15am
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QUOTE(Sylar @ Mon 26th January 2009, 4:08pm)  I know Mike Godwin personally, and he is a jackassed idiot. Obviously... but is he a decent lawyer? Hah. Ha ha ha.This is a great day to revisit Godwin's Greatest Hits. Anyone remember all the suck-up he got from the "digerati" back in the 1990s, when he worked for the EFF and wrote pontifications like this? Jimbo probably likes Mikey, because he's an aggressive self-promoter with "reality-based issues". Just like Jimbo. |
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